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rovercanus said:
Yes it is. Remember when the democrats couldn't run a viable candidate? That seems to be where the Republicans are now.
What a bunch of fucking morons.
Both sides are running this country into the ground trying to put someone in office that the banks can control and we keep voting the party line.
We deserve this as stupid party voting sheep.
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Walter speaketh the truth.
 
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I have plenty of real things to feel guilty about, why should I feel the need to imagine a "white guilt" to worry about?
I'm going to have to say the Irish Americans have overcome thier slavery issues pretty well. As well as the Jews, Huegonots, Protestants, Germans, Slavs, Scots, lower class English etc...
But what do I know? I'm not an elitist who went to school for years to find out how superior I am and should therefore have imaginary guilts to feel bad about.
If you want to learn a little more about slavery do an in depth study of european history.
 
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See this is great stuff right here. I agree 100% with everyone but Knewsome, but, that's what makes for a good converstation right? This belongs beside a campfire with cold beer!

Everyone is saying basically the same but Dan put it into basic perspective realeted to life in general. Dan, what's that you said a while back? You can't make this shit up?
 
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D Chapman said:
Yeah, there is just a little bit of bullshit here. You, me, Garrett, and about 98% of the rest of the people on this site never experienced slavery/kkk/extreme racism. Slavery was abolished long before we came around. Was there some racism likely present from our grandparents or people we knew or grew up with? Probably. But neither you or me, or 90% of the blacks in the USA today can fully understand what blacks went through 100 or even 60 years ago. But people still want to talk about it.

I feel people such as Jesse Jackson and Al Frank do more damage than good. Could you imagine if the cable network came out with White Entertainment Television? Or if there were college scholarships available to only white people? Good lord, I could not even image it today....

The black guy next door to me has the same opportunity as I do in the Country. If he is fighting poverty it's likely because he made some piss-poor decisions earlier in life, not because he was racially profiled. Shit, we have a black President!

Call it stereotypical, but many black sit around looking for a fucking handout. Remember the videos floating around when Obama was running for President of blacks? Of course that does not represent all blacks, but the redneck videos you see do not represent all whites, either.

There is simply more black-on-white crime, more black-on-white racism, and more blacks crying foul. It gets old, man. Black were mistreated 100 years ago, it has nothing to do with me or you, get over it. Blacks are the ones keep racism alive.
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Dan, I certainly agree with the fact that racism today is a fraction of what it once was, and far less of a factor in peoples' lives than decision making... I'll also readily agree that there are plenty of people looking for handouts! I think, when discussing the topic of racism and its impact on America, it's important not to conflate those who are using it as an excuse and those who are trying to spread awareness, and while I'm not all about handouts, I AM all about awareness - not because of "white guilt" or any of that bullshit, but because there are still millions and millions of people dealing with the economic and cultural consequences of those many many decades of perhaps not slavery any more, but certainly segregation and rampant, legal (and illegal) discrimination. It's a lot easier for someone whose parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents own their land and have lived long stable lives to get their shit together and make good decisions than it is for someone who has zero chance of inheritance, an unstable family life, poor role-models, and whose traditional cultural values are shaped by a history of slavery and oppression. Sure, many non-black groups have overcome terrible adversity, but it took many generations for this to happen, more than have passed since the Civil Rights Amendment. I'm confident that in time the Black community in the US will recover as well, but I'm not about to say that things are perfectly equal, because they're just not.
 
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knewsom said:
Dan, I certainly agree with the fact that racism today is a fraction of what it once was, and far less of a factor in peoples' lives than decision making... I'll also readily agree that there are plenty of people looking for handouts! I think, when discussing the topic of racism and its impact on America, it's important not to conflate those who are using it as an excuse and those who are trying to spread awareness, and while I'm not all about handouts, I AM all about awareness - not because of "white guilt" or any of that bullshit, but because there are still millions and millions of people dealing with the economic and cultural consequences of those many many decades of perhaps not slavery any more, but certainly segregation and rampant, legal (and illegal) discrimination. It's a lot easier for someone whose parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents own their land and have lived long stable lives to get their shit together and make good decisions than it is for someone who has zero chance of inheritance, an unstable family life, poor role-models, and whose traditional cultural values are shaped by a history of slavery and oppression. Sure, many non-black groups have overcome terrible adversity, but it took many generations for this to happen, more than have passed since the Civil Rights Amendment. I'm confident that in time the Black community in the US will recover as well, but I'm not about to say that things are perfectly equal, because they're just not.
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I'd say George Washington Carver made it pretty well. We all have the opportunity here Knewsome, what seperates us is who grabs the bull by the horns. Great quote I'd like to share.

Luck is when opportunity meets preperation. Look at the story of Nido Qubein, the current president of High Point University.

http://www.nidoqubein.com/aboutnidoqubein.cfm
 
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brian4d said:
I'd say George Washington Carver made it pretty well. We all have the opportunity here Knewsome, what seperates us is who grabs the bull by the horns. Great quote I'd like to share.

Luck is when opportunity meets preperation. Look at the story of Nido Qubein, the current president of High Point University.

http://www.nidoqubein.com/aboutnidoqubein.cfm
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Obviously there are exceptional people who shine in spite of shit circumstances... GWC is an excellent example of this. When you have vast economic disparity between ethnic groups such as the current state of affairs in this country, that means we DON'T all have the same opportunity, and as I said before, it can take many generations to overcome that dispartiy.
 
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knewsom said:
Obviously there are exceptional people who shine in spite of shit circumstances... GWC is an excellent example of this. When you have vast economic disparity between ethnic groups such as the current state of affairs in this country, that means we DON'T all have the same opportunity, and as I said before, it can take many generations to overcome that dispartiy.
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I really don't know what to say to this except, how can you look at your self and not see you're part of the underlying problem?
 
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D Chapman said:
The black guy next door to me has the same opportunity as I do in the Country. If he is fighting poverty it's likely because he made some piss-poor decisions earlier in life, not because he was racially profiled.

Blacks are the ones keep racism alive.
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daniel, wait a minute, you live next to a black guy who is fighting poverty? i hate to be the one to tell you this but that means you live in the ghetto and you are in fact a nigga. you're like that chapelle skit of clayton bigsby...the blind black white supremacist. you hate what you are.

and knewsom, are you really this bored?
 
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brian4d said:
Here we go again, all you Birthers get ready for this. Some thought provoking stuff right here. The first official LE investigation. I thought the 1980 stamp test was very interesting.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joes-posse-probable-cause-obama-certificate-a-fraud/
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Fucking Joke Our Piehole. He's just trying to get the attention off the Joel Fox trial. AARPaio and his deputy HenderBlimp are doing all they can not to perjure themselves. Even Fox is worried stuff he says to get his job back will come back to bite him in a federal investigation.

And I'll bet 90% of AARPaio's Posse is republican. Of course they'll find the birth certificate fake.
 
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