Oil Discrepancy Solved (mine is best!)

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Schattenjager

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Just for giggles I have revisited the numerous threads about oil - syn vs. dino, will it ruin your engine, can you really get an extra 50 HP by using such and such. Some of the camps are decisively divided, which imparts the humor I got from all this.

Don?t you think that most every name brand oil on the market is pretty darn good? :bigok: I am a Mobil 1 guy myself, but have used Valvoline on occasion without a hick-up. All the pistons continued to do their job and the radio always worked. Living in Alaska (for the time being) I really favor syn for the cold flow etc. In Colorado I will still use it, but doubt I will ever reap the full benefits. A good dino or even a blend would provide the same results with my frequent oil changes. It just makes me feel good to use the pretty silver Mobil 1 bottles. LOL

IF you put Pennzoil in your car and the motor blew up 5 blocks latter, I humbly submit that you had bigger things going on than the oil. Problems are more a testament to our care and feeding of cars over time than the instant negative result of using anything other than your favorite brand.
 

Jaime

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I use a good filter (Wix Master pack of 24 at $4.51 eac at local auto parts store) and whatever name brand dino oil happens to be on sale at WallyWorld at the 3-4 k interval.

185k and going strong!
 

jmoore

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Welcome to the FIGHT CLUB!

The first rule of Fight Club is - you do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is - you DO NOT talk about Fight Club. Third rule of Fight Club, someone yells Stop!, goes limp, taps out, the fight is over. Fourth rule, only two guys to a fight. Fifth rule, one fight at a time, fellas. Sixth rule, no shirt, no shoes. Seventh rule, fights will go on as long as they have to. And the eighth and final rule, if this is your first night at Fight Club, you have to fight.
 
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Rover TSB on this subject......





NO.
12/07/96/US

DATE
10/25/96

SUBJECT
Engine Oil Winter Driving Specification

MODEL
Range Rover 4.0/4.6
Range Rover Classic
Discovery
Defender

DETAIL
In order to ensure full engine protection and consistent engine start-up in cold weather conditions it is important that Land Rover oil viscosity recommendations be followed. It is particularly vital when temperatures fall below freezing, 0°C (32°F), that the recommended 5W/40 or 5W/30 oil be used to ensure that proper cranking speeds can be obtained.

Information published in the Service Manual for NAS vehicles in some editions may be confusing. In some cases the entire range of engine protection is not shown on the NAS page. Refer to the information below for accurate engine oil protection information.

ACTION REQUIRED
USE ONLY RECOMMENDED MULTI-GRADE OILS.

FOR WINTER DRIVING WITH TEMPERATURES ROUTINELY BELOW FREEZING, A MULTI- VISCOSITY 5 WEIGHT OIL IS REQUIRED. 5W/40 Oil IS RECOMMENDED.

PARTS INFORMATION
Use only oils which meet the API service level specification "SG" or SH."

PROCEDURE
The following oil viscosity ratings may be used in the temperature ranges specified.

Winter conditions:

5W/30 -35°to +35°C(-31°to +95°F)


Winter or summer conditions:

5W/40 -35°to +45°C (-31°to 113°F)
5W/50 -35°to +55°C (-31°to 131°F)


Summer conditions only

10W/30 -10°to +35°C (+14°TO +95°F)
10W/40 -10°to +55°C (+14°TO +131°F)
 

MarkP

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Chris-St Louis said:
It IS that simple.. Rover tells you what they want in their engines..... They did the hard part for you.


Weight wise, yes. Formulation wise, there are differences. The rover engines are older technology that has been adapted to emissions control. Everyone has seen the sludge buildup in these engines and the damage it can do. Some oils do a better job at keeping the upper end clean than others. I know an over-the-road truck mechanic that can walk down a line of vehicles and by looking at the oil filler underside, tell you what brand of oil your running. In his opinion the east coast high sulpher content oils are the dirtiest.

As for synthetics, they are probably so close that it doesn't make a difference which one you use. The newer dyno oils are also better than they use to be but there are differences.
 

jhmover

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Apr 23, 2004
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I found an easy solution. I'll use the "blend" regular oil combined with synthetic oil, then no one can bitch at me about what I'm using.
 
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XScoutguy

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jmoore said:
Welcome to the FIGHT CLUB!

The first rule of Fight Club is - you do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is - you DO NOT talk about Fight Club. Third rule of Fight Club, someone yells Stop!, goes limp, taps out, the fight is over. Fourth rule, only two guys to a fight. Fifth rule, one fight at a time, fellas. Sixth rule, no shirt, no shoes. Seventh rule, fights will go on as long as they have to. And the eighth and final rule, if this is your first night at Fight Club, you have to fight.
ROCK-on dude.You did forget rule "9"-third man in,GAME MISCONDUCT.Hockey rule book;)
 
Several years ago, I waded into one fo these debates and made the mistake of stating that I had been buying Tractor Supply oil by the five-gallon pail. I was driving nearly 100 miles a daya dn changing my oil every two and a half weeks. LOL

I got pounded on for using an inferior oil, yet it bore the very same API specs!

The worst oil changed regularly is better than the best oil run too long.

Yes, oils that meet similar API specs are pretty similar with the only variations being lubricity enhnacers that may be added by the formualtor and these are usually somewhat proprietary.

PT
 

JohnK

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Sep 28, 2004
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Chris-St Louis said:
Rover TSB on this subject......

NO.
12/07/96/US

DATE
10/25/96

SUBJECT
Engine Oil Winter Driving Specification

MODEL
Range Rover 4.0/4.6
Range Rover Classic
Discovery
Defender
Is this posted in the TSB Forum?