Penetrating lubricant and general lubrication

kennith

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A long while ago, I began using Firearm oils and grease for general lubrication about the vehicle; things such as the door hinges. It has worked wonderfully, and better than any other product, even those specified for such purposes.

Recently, I have found myself with a few stuck bolts. All of them were the sort that were going to snap off. You know the sort I'm speaking of. I broke out a can of Break-Free CLP, and sprayed them. Those buggers spun right off after leaving it to sit for a few minutes. One of them was the lock nut for my steering box adjuster. Now, that box was rusty when I bought the vehicle new in 2001 , so you can imagine how it is now. It came right off like it was new.

Today, I found myself with a stuck lug nut. With a normal breaker bar, it would have popped free with too much force applied, and it was a situation where all that muscle would leave you unable to control the release. A cheater bar would have removed it with control, or about 5 hours of normal penetrating lubricant.

Well, I sprayed it with the CLP, and immediately put the bar back on it. That lug came off with complete control and about half the force I thought it would require.

I think people who use penetrating lubricants ought to try this for their everyday purposes, as they might find it superior to everything else.

Here is another interesting fact. When I sprayed that nut, some of the CLP dripped on the wheel. When I wiped it off, EVERYTHING came off. Not the paint or coating, but every damn drop of brake dust, even those little spots that never seem to come off.

CLP and a terry towel. That's all I used. Now, I wouldn't suggest you use it regularly to clean painted or coated surfaces, but it will clean the fucking shit out of a wheel, and it will sure as hell help you spin a rusted nut off without breaking it.

For my hinges, I've been using G-96. The first time I used it, I tossed the door open, and it came back and hit me in the face. Very effective.

So, your mileage may vary, but you might want to give these things a shot. Get it? A shot? OK, that was bad.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Roving Beetle

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OK, link where to buy it??

Would have helped with the GMC 8.1L V8 big block i just did the manifold studs and gaskets on for a customer. That job SUCKED!! Lots of heat/cool/heat/cool and then oil - lots and lots of it. Suck job. But I got it.... only a few broken ones that ended up coming out in the end with welding and cursing and two required the plasma cutter to "blast" out the broken off triple square bits inside the drilled out studs. What a bugger.
 

mulisha00

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You can buy CLP at your local Walmart in the sporting goods section around the firearms cleaning supplies.

I'll give it a shot kennith for automotive use.

I've had great luck with Amsoil metal protector to free stuck fasteners.
 

kennith

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http://www.break-free.com/

Just look for this at any gun show or sporting goods store. It's designed for AR pattern firearms.

If you use it on something that's meant to be tightened to a certain torque value when re-installed, make damn sure you thoroughly clean this stuff off before you re-install the part. This is a real lubricant, designed to work under extremely harsh conditions, and could potentially throw off the torque reading or otherwise cause a problem by overly lubricating parts.

Consider carefully how you use it. The stuff is slick as snot on a doorknob, and won't just burn or wear off in use.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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mulisha00 said:
You can buy CLP at your local Walmart in the sporting goods section around the firearms cleaning supplies.

I'll give it a shot kennith for automotive use.

I've had great luck with Amsoil metal protector to free stuck fasteners.

I have been using liquid wrench, as it outperforms pretty much everything else. I've tried pretty much everything on the market. CLP smokes the shit out of all of that. This was the first time I thought to use it on stuck fasteners. Just be careful with it. I've never seen it eat the plastic on a firearm, but it's possible that it could damage certain surfaces.

I'd keep it away from paint and bushings until you test it to see how it reacts. I'd likewise warn to keep it away from hardware that needs specific torque values unless you clean it off first. The other gun lubes I've tried haven't hurt the paint on my hinges, but CLP is a different animal.

If you just know you are going to snap that bolt or strip it, however, a little bit of this will shock you with it's performance.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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Ron said:
I am PB blaster man myself.

That stuff won't hold a candle to Liquid Wrench. I messed with all of it, including Blaster, Seafoam, Amsoil, Even WD-40. I've tried a bunch of strange brands as well. Liquid Wrench beat the pants off of all of them.

Seafoam is a decent penetrating lube, but it really belongs in the engine, not on it. Blaster has always been a complete disappointment for me. Seafoam is better, but not by much. We all know that WD-40 is really only useful for cleaning crap off and evacuating water, so it's not even worth mentioning. The other brands were better, being designed specifically for the application, and not a catch-all product.

Liquid Wrench has topped them all, in my experience. I wouldn't have believed it, having used the rest in the past. It was always a matter of tapping, heating, cooling, lubing; the works. It didn't matter what brand I used, it was always the same.

Liquid wrench removed most of that headache, and would handle all but the most horribly rusty hardware, which I thought would break no matter what you used.

Then, did that intemperate Kennith find upon the ground one day a can of CLP; and even as the Earth doth shake the mountain's peak; so were those rustiest of bolts set free by it's mighty blow! So found he solace, the most frustrated of mechanics, in the truth of penetrating lubricants.

And everyone lived happily ever after.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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Dalton305

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JB 80 if you can find it works very very good as well.

If you can find it.
 

Two Cold Soakers

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Okay, okay, I'll try it already!!!!

I've had better luck with PB than Liquid Wrench as a penetrant.

CLP has shown its excellence as a lubricant. I'll try it next time I need to eat through 13 years of road salt.
 

DiscoJen

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Thanks Kennith for the product review. I need to see if they have it in gallon sizes so I can soak my whole Series. My sawzall has been very busy lately. :)
 

kennith

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It comes in little 2oz bottles for range trips and duty carry. I'd buy one of those to try it and see if you like it. No need to go out and buy a bunch at first. It's pretty expensive.

The full-on spray bottle can cost 30 bucks, wheres I think the average for the aerosol is around 20. A few dollars for the 2oz bottle is worth a try, or just borrow some from an AR owner. Hunters and collectors don't generally use this stuff.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

mbrummal

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Ron said:
I am PB blaster man myself.
x2 That stuff proved itself to me on a crankshaft hub bolt on a BMW a few years ago. Never looked back. I haven't ever really had rusty bolts to deal with. brute force usually works for me.
 

MUSKYMAN

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Kroil is the shizzbit...just plain out performs everything else hands down.

the other thing is it works so well that a can lasts forever!!

You use less on each nut bolt or screw and never get those really crappy ones that take half a can of lesser products.

I removed a 100yr old rusted bolt on a piece of farm equipment last fall that everyone watching was betting would need to cut off...2 min od soaking and it broke free and spun off with a nasty noisy squeel but it cam off.

KROIL...I am devoted to this product now!!
 
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MUSKYMAN

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it is crazy isnt it Paul...I have tossed so many cans of blaster with stuff left in the can and no proppelant that it makes me sick.

the kroil just lasts until one of my friends steal the can because the are so impressed with the stuff.