Please Help

makala9000

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A quick description of "My" circumstances.

My wife and I live Off-Grid n remote Alaska, USA.
Winter and breakup (thaw in spring, bottomless mud and sink holes) we Must travel by chained 6x6 Polaris ATV
3 miles to a Borough rd. where our disco is parked at a friends home. they are not always home and we have to be confident that our disco will run as per normal, hard travel in sub zero temperatures.

Recently we have had alarm issues, and after reviewing many threads we have had success turning it off or resetting. We purchased it used and it came with no remote. It also had the ignition switch replaced (appears to be a used one). We had not ever armed the alarm or locked the doors (ice freeze up) and it just randomly started arming and immobilizing the vehicle, But as stated We have learned how to reset it (we think).


Our current problem was on a drive on paved streets, turning left into a parking lot, we head a sound like a door locking or un-locking and our emergency flashers activated. We can only turn them off by disconnecting the battery. They continue when reconnected even with the flasher relay removed, interior fuse, under the hood fuse and all four relays below alarm ecu removed at the same time. We have no lit alarm led to indicate arming of, or system activation.


Wife said kill the damn alarm and fix the problem or sell it, she is shopping for used Chev Suburban or Ford Excursion now.


I do not want to sell it, yet, it is the ONLY 4x4 that Can make it all the way to our home when the snow is 2 1/2' deep (gets 5 feet) chained x4 like driving a tank.


Is it an alarm issue or something else? Can be fixed or order parts?


Any help would be great, Rover dealer in Anchorage, 240 miles each way and they claim impossible and never heard of, including alarm malfunctions.


Thanks for Your time,

Makala & Ann

Chakok Valley, Alaska
 

discostew

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Its possible you have tripped the inertia switch . Its located on the firewall on the passenger side . It has a switch on the top that you push down to reset it . If you were really in an accident the doors would have unlocked themselves and the 4 ways come on so responders can find you . And if you hit a bump really hard that switch will cut power to the fuel pump . But if I'm right about whats wrong you have only tripped it to its first level of activated . Ive tripped it going over railroad crossings .
 

makala9000

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Thanks for the response,
Gave it a try, connected battery, doors unlocked, flashers going, pushed reset, felt like it was tripped, no difference, disconnected battery, did it again, same thing, does the vehicle NEED to be Running? Bad sensor? Problem elswhere? Have to stop for tonight, the sand-hill cranes went silent....bears are out and hungry after hibernation.
Makala.
 

1920SF

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Given your location and environment, what's the condition of the battery? Likewise you may want to confirm/deny the grounds are good. Since it's a 95 (according to your profile) it should NOT be the spider alarm catastrophe seen in 96 and beyond GEMS trucks. Some searching reveals threads like this: http://www.discoweb.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55179

The good news is your truck is pretty simple to troubleshoot, the downside being bad grounds are a PITA to find.
r-
Ray
 

discostew

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I would try to lock and unlock the drivers door with the key . If the side lights don't flash when the doors are locked then the switch in the drivers door lock may be open electrically or possibly broken . The alarm when triggered is going to want to see some kind of input from either the key fob transmitter , or the key in the drivers door . Pass side door while it has a lock cylinder has no switch for the alarm ecu.
 
The alarm in a '95 is one of the easiest to disable.

The answers you seek are in the ETM-as are most.

Given your circumstances (which other than the cold, I'm envious of) I see no reason not to remove the entire central locking system along with what little alarm is present in your truck.

The alarm system on this truck is limited to crank interrupt and alarm sounding. Easy fix.

BTW-your issues are likely due to water ingress to the alarm unit itself and corresponding corrosion or door lock actuators.

Were I to choose the perfect Rover for the environment, you've got it!
 

makala9000

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Apr 14, 2015
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off-grid bush alaska
Given your location and environment, what's the condition of the battery? Likewise you may want to confirm/deny the grounds are good. Since it's a 95 (according to your profile) it should NOT be the spider alarm catastrophe seen in 96 and beyond GEMS trucks. Some searching reveals threads like this: http://www.discoweb.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55179

The good news is your truck is pretty simple to troubleshoot, the downside being bad grounds are a PITA to find.
r-
Ray
thanks, working on grounds, rewire to fuse box.
 

makala9000

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off-grid bush alaska
I would try to lock and unlock the drivers door with the key . If the side lights don't flash when the doors are locked then the switch in the drivers door lock may be open electrically or possibly broken . The alarm when triggered is going to want to see some kind of input from either the key fob transmitter , or the key in the drivers door . Pass side door while it has a lock cylinder has no switch for the alarm ecu.


Will check out door lock when I get a chance, don't ever use them here, not much car theft and almost everybody has firearms, no concealed carry permit required, even special "felon" firearms permits available as well as full-auto.
I am able to reset alarm, My flasher issue is a different problem, impact sensor, ground, do not think battery...have tried 2 new ones.

Thanks for your help and suggestions
Makala
 

makala9000

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Apr 14, 2015
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The alarm in a '95 is one of the easiest to disable.

The answers you seek are in the ETM-as are most.

Given your circumstances (which other than the cold, I'm envious of) I see no reason not to remove the entire central locking system along with what little alarm is present in your truck.

The alarm system on this truck is limited to crank interrupt and alarm sounding. Easy fix.

BTW-your issues are likely due to water ingress to the alarm unit itself and corresponding corrosion or door lock actuators.

Were I to choose the perfect Rover for the environment, you've got it!


I sent You a Message, And yes its a great place to live, NO building permits, inspections
land for lees than $10,000 for 10 acres, river and wild life, substantial trail systems, liberal fishing and hunting limits as well as personnel use and subsistence harvesting (in addition to sport) cold is not that bad, we moved here to retire after 22 years residing in Hawaii.
 

11b4v

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Wish I was living off grid in Alaska.

Given you're temperatures/conditions, I'd go ahead and ditch that alarm once and for all as PSSchram advised.

You might be better served with a 'stripped down' DI than to run into this again.
 

discoduk

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I would not put my personal safety in the hands of a disco. if i had to i would have some sort of back up. now for my similar experience with a disco in cold wet environment. " keep a very good battery" I have had a battery that would start the truck just fine but the alarm immobilizer system and other systems were real quirky.i screwd with it for months until i replaced the battery with a high quality new one and have had no problems since. oh on a side note i put the old battery in a toyota land cruiser and it is still going on two years now.
 

discostew

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I would not put my personal safety in the hands of a disco. if i had to i would have some sort of back up. now for my similar experience with a disco in cold wet environment. " keep a very good battery" I have had a battery that would start the truck just fine but the alarm immobilizer system and other systems were real quirky.i screwd with it for months until i replaced the battery with a high quality new one and have had no problems since. oh on a side note i put the old battery in a toyota land cruiser and it is still going on two years now.



Why is that ? These trucks are the best I've driven in the snow ever . Center diff locked and even just a rear locker . That's the biggest part about being safe , getting to your destination . As long as my battery is fresh I have no trouble getting mine going at near -20 F .