Reset adaptive values

number9

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its the atmel 28C16 serial eprom containing the adaptive values he is refering to , not the eproms containing the "tune"
Thanks for that info/link and will read up on that. Understand now that post of "complete reset" wasn't meant as a total EPROM(s) memory clearing.
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robertf

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looks like I should read it too, it is parallel, not serial. I must be confusing myself with the radio eprom that stores the code. that one is serial.
 

discostew

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Thanks again for the link. Mine came in today's mail. It's fine piece of electrical equipment and well worth the bucks.
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I've used the shit out of mine and everyone in my shop comes for it and no sign of wear or any problems with it at all. I would also check out a site called probemaster for some leads with the right size banana plug on them. Another great site with good leads and what have you. Not sure if the whole name is a joke or what. I remember my wife coming into the room with a funny look on her face after checking e mails asking " Did you just order something from a company called ProbeMaster?" Guess you had to be there. But just to add to the funny ass name, it appears the president of the company is called Dick Push. All that being said I really like there extendable backprobe leads for my Fluke meter.

http://probemaster.com/extendable-test-leads/
 

discostew

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thats neat, never seen one of those before

Im going to go with the banana jacks since the obd2 cable i have doesnt have the pins for airbag or alarm

We know k and l line are iso protocol, I have no idea what the other 2 are but Im going to set it up to just log pin value change and time delta. well deconstruct it later, but it would be nice to put together an android app or something so that these 20 year old vehicles are no longer dealer dependent

I'm looking forward to doing this. Just curious about how I will identify every directional cammand from the T4 to the vehicle. Will the recording device number each event and then I will make notes about what every command is? If I have access to a P38 there is a bunch of air suspension prompts like put it into diagnostic mode with prompts a double beep that sounds like a miss-lock. Inflate and deflate system. A whole calibration routine and other stuff I probably forget right now. Then with the GEMS and Bosch Disco's there are some other prompts that might be useful as well. I could just go thru the whole menue of commands and you pick out what you want. Relearn security immobilization would probably be a good one also.
 

robertf

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This thing will be quick and basic. 12v+, 12v- and then whatever lines you are monitoring, K and L for the ecm. It's mostly put together, just need to program it and make sure it works.

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it'll dump raw data to an SD card that is incrementally #'d. if you could rename the files to identify what you did during each recording session that would be helpful. You'll have to pull the card and rename it on a PC.

Once the files are there we can figure out baud rate and such. I know some other manufacturers increase the communication rate between the scan tool and ecm during dealer type stuff, I don't know if GEMS does that or not.

There is a lot to do. The recording is just part of it.
 

robertf

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I dont think that is possible. The generic part of the iso protocol is a non standard baud rate in the pc world of the 90s, so the pc to the testbook hardware will be running at a different rate than the hardware to vehicle
 

discostew

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If there is an option to lock the baud rate on the Testbook that would be one less item.

I have always thought that the T4 changes the baud rate depending on what it's interfacing with. Like the Disco2 was the first Rover that brought the CAN network to the diagnostic connector. But before that the stuff had to be very adaptive on the scan tool. Like for Freelander you have to switch between a grey conector and the Blue connector. They had what we called a switchable brick to make that transition faster. Then the black connector came out and that was supposed to cover everything. But not the Freeloader. You guys let me know what your most interested in and I will do my end.
 

discostew

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Don't assume that because it can do a Bosch system it will do the Gems units. I know nothing about the tool but the two vehicles are so different that I would look into it.