Roller rockers for 4.0

tightgroup

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Hi,

I have read some of the threads on roller rockers and just wondering for those that did this, if they would like to shed some light as if it was worth it or not..

I am on the line on this one, since I have a very mild build on the bottom end and nothing fancy in terms of cam or head.

Any thoughts ??


Tks

TG
 

92rrrandall

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It is definately not worth it for a Range Rover. It is only worth it if you insist on using a cam with more than .450" lift on a high performance Rover powered car. In that case it will help eliminate SOME of the problems caused by using a high lift cam.

However if money is no object then, I would get them. Look at the second item on this catalog page: http://www.thewedgeshop.com/catalog.html

Randall
 

tightgroup

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I thought rollers help with duration, hence letting this V8 be a bit more efficient..

Am I wrong :(

And well I think there are rollers out there cheaper than 1250....

TG
 

azarmadillo

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There is a company in Scottsdale, AZ cooking up some new heads for the Rover V8s with roller cams or some crazy upgraded stuff. My mechanics donated a block or two for development and testing so as soon as something is available, I'll post it and hopefully install it for real world testing.
 

92rrrandall

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It is difficult to find any high performance parts for a Rover V8. Usually they are expensive if custom made to fit this engine. Try these cylinder heads: http://www.roverv8engine.co.uk/index2.htm

Yella Terra part# YT6000

D&D fabrication does not list any roller rockers on their website. I bought four rocker shaft pillars from D&D which cost $200, even though I could have made them myself.

Roller rockers reduce friction, improve pushrod engine valvetrain geometry, and are stronger.

Roller cams and roller lifters allow much faster lift rates than could ever be used with hydrolic lifters.

I have an insanely fast RRC and TR8. Neither vehicle requires any of this stuff.

Randall
 

92rrrandall

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Here is another one: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=CSP-STR8&autoview=sku

Does not seem very complete to me though. I would be that it would require a professional engine builder to get this to work. There are a lot of parts in the valve train of a push rod engine that have to work together.

This may be similar to using pistons from another engine in the Rover. Not a simple swap, but could be fantastic if done professionally.

Randall
 
While I no longer consider myself to be a professional engine builder and when I did, I was probably talking out my ass, I'd really like to try to make a set of roller rockers.

If one were to find a set of rollers with shaft diameter close to the rocker shaft diameter of Rover rocker shafts, could one fit the roller rockers to the Rover shafts? Might require some boring and bearing searching, but I think it might be done. I've thought about buying a set of used roller rockers from eBay to play with, but life has gotten in the way.

While roller lifters allow for very steep camshaft profiles, IMO the advantage of roller rockers is extremely lower friction in the upper end of the valve train, reduced mass (in some applications, but probably not in the Rover) and extended RPM operation-again, not something we need in most Land Rover applications.

In my application, I want to reduce as much power robbing friction as I can so that power can make it to the wheels. Our engines are not setup for peak efficiency and simple changes like bigger cams, better exhaust and modifiable fuel injection management systems hold great potential for either generating additional power or reducing losses due to friction and heat. Of course, just about anyting would be more efficient than Lucas EMS!