shipping a handgun non ffl

[stu454]

Okay.

Joe Blow shipping a handgun to manufacturer or licensed gunsmith via UPS or FedEx=Okay; follow the carrier's individual rules, e.g. use Next Day, and so on.

Joe Blow shipping a handgun to DT McShakeyhands, whether in or out of state=No, under any circumstances.

Your local laws may be tighter with regard to shipping to a manufacturer or gunsmith. Example: it may have to go through a licensed dealer for both trips.

Edited to correct inaccurate information.

 

[jafir]

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service

 

[stu454]

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service

Cool. I learned something new about shipping long guns to residents of the same state.

I'll edit my previous post.

Thanks.

 

[jafir]

Of course in typical government fashion they are ambiguous about hand guns, in my opinion. They say you can mail long guns. They say you cannot mail handguns and have to use UPS or something, but it doesn't specifically say if can or cannot ship a handgun, to a non-licensee in your own state.

 

[Nomar]

I received a handgun UPS last year.


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[stu454]

From a dealer, gunsmith, or manufacturer?

 

[Blue]

Guys, don't make this complicated. What is a gun? It's a bunch of parts put together to make a working "gun". When you disassemble it and put a slide and barrel and firing pin in Box A, it is just a few machined parts. When you put the frame and springs and magazines and whatever else in Box B, it is also a few machines parts. Separate packages does not equal "gun".

 

[stu454]

Bill, the frame is still legally a firearm, whether it's stripped or complete.

I don't disagree with the spirit of what you're saying, but it's asking for trouble.

 

[kennith]

Bill, the frame is still legally a firearm, whether it's stripped or complete.

I don't disagree with the spirit of what you're saying, but it's asking for trouble.

The frame is indeed the problem, and beyond that an arrangement of parts that can be used to construct one is a problem, as well.

Just find a nearby dealer and have them receive it for you, or arrange shipping. You can also visit the carrier and ask for their rules on paper, and follow them.

Handguns should be transferred on record, anyway. You're covering your ass, not bowing to the government.

Any exchange or shipment that won't work within those confines wouldn't warrant the question, so do it right.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[ptschram]

I find it curious that we are now not to place any markings on containers with firearms when shipping them. I flew into NYC back in about '94 with a wooden crate in the baggage hold of the aircraft with a big orange tag that said "FIREARM".

When it came down the baggage carousel, the first thing I did was pull that tag off and walk out.

A disassembled pump gun fits into a box that looks for all the world like a wooden box that might contain something like a small stringed musical instrument.

 

[ThaCrabapple]

Guys, don't make this complicated. What is a gun? It's a bunch of parts put together to make a working "gun". When you disassemble it and put a slide and barrel and firing pin in Box A, it is just a few machined parts. When you put the frame and springs and magazines and whatever else in Box B, it is also a few machines parts. Separate packages does not equal "gun".

For your sake, don't do this. The serialized part is still a "firearm", being disassembled does NOT change this.

There are FFLs everywhere. It's worth the 25 dollar transfer fee(or whatever they charge).

Shotguns and rifles, by federal law, can be mailed to yourself. Handguns make things a lot more difficult. Also, you need to take the shipping and receiving states law into account.

FFL or fly with it in a locked gun case separate from ammunition is the way to go. No ammunition in your carry on.

 

[ThaCrabapple]

I find it curious that we are now not to place any markings on containers with firearms when shipping them. I flew into NYC back in about '94 with a wooden crate in the baggage hold of the aircraft with a big orange tag that said "FIREARM".

When it came down the baggage carousel, the first thing I did was pull that tag off and walk out.

A disassembled pump gun fits into a box that looks for all the world like a wooden box that might contain something like a small stringed musical instrument.

Marking it "FIREARM" was probably a great way for baggage detail to go home with a shiny new handgun. I'm glad mine are not marked in big letters. No one has any business knowing what's in my bag. The gun is not going to miracle itself and start shooting.

 

[ptschram]

Marking it "FIREARM" was probably a great way for baggage detail to go home with a shiny new handgun. I'm glad mine are not marked in big letters. No one has any business knowing what's in my bag. The gun is not going to miracle itself and start shooting.

At the time this took place, it was the law that it had to be labeled as such. Worse yet, at the time, my dad and I had an FFL but as I was going into NYC, I could not mail it (IIRC)

 

[ThaCrabapple]

At the time this took place, it was the law that it had to be labeled as such. Worse yet, at the time, my dad and I had an FFL but as I was going into NYC, I could not mail it (IIRC)

Yea, I understood what you meant. It sucks.

 

[Devildog01]

Im going checked baggage,pelican case double locked and insured for 3 times the new purchase price. I'm putting a fragile sticker on it and if i can find a sticker that says camera equipment I'll throw that on there as well. I'll let you know how I make out when I touch down in Texas Thursday morning.

 

[Blue]

Guess I never much cared for the laws.

 

[Blue]

Im going checked baggage,pelican case double locked and insured for 3 times the new purchase price. I'm putting a fragile sticker on it and if i can find a sticker that says camera equipment I'll throw that on there as well. I'll let you know how I make out when I touch down in Texas Thursday morning.

Betcha a 6 pack that your bag is lost.

 

[Devildog01]

Betcha a 6 pack that your bag is lost.

I'll take that bet. Either way it's a win win. If they lose it/steal it I'll go buy a new one and pocket some cash.

 

[kk88rrc]

Make sure you check with the airports & airline for the check in procedure. I've seen people checking weapons & the police were involved in the procedure... not sure if that's standard or not. If it is, plan for extra time at check-in.

Skip the camera equipment stickers. Why draw more attention.

 

[Devildog01]

Betcha a 6 pack that your bag is lost.

You owe me a 6 pack. Landed at Dallas Ft Worth with the pelican case still in my luggage. And I even had a 2 hour layover in Atlanta ta boot! Kyle T can vouch for seeing said handgun upon arrival at airport.