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Sorry, David, but that's not happening. Not after this.

I like the people who say he should make the 1,000 mile trip to Atlanta to save $150 in freight. That's about as logical as paying $25k for a rusted out Defender.

Aside from that, the part of Atlanta this douchebags shop is in is unreal. There's a reason Turner Field is moving across town. But if you're in the market for crack a skinny black whores with more kids than teeth, perhaps the trip would be worth it.
 

Mongo

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The guy is a thxxf…so what do you call someone that takes money for parts and never sends the parts, then you have to chase him down, contact your CC company and file a dispute to get the money back?
 
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SGaynor

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I've got no dog in this fight, but the OP claiming that it will cost him $1000 to ship is just BS. I understand that the motor is no-go, but he sat on it for a 18 months, threw out the original crate, and is now claiming that shipping back will cost $1000?

I sent back a Chevy 5.8L (in the crate that the new one came in) for $330, including the extra $100 for the lift gate/residential.

People have to meet in the middle on some things.

Now, if this vendor has a history...well.
 

rovercanus

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I rarely go to D90 anymore, usually only when threads are linked to it. Good to know that all the assholes and idiots are still alive and well there.
D90 does a good job of keeping them contained.
 

jymmiejamz

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I've got no dog in this fight, but the OP claiming that it will cost him $1000 to ship is just BS. I understand that the motor is no-go, but he sat on it for a 18 months, threw out the original crate, and is now claiming that shipping back will cost $1000?

I sent back a Chevy 5.8L (in the crate that the new one came in) for $330, including the extra $100 for the lift gate/residential.

It think he would have to pay shipping both ways and provide the crate.
 

seventyfive

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The guy is a thxxf…so what do you call someone that takes money for parts and never sends the parts, then you have to chase him down, contact your CC company and file a dispute to get the money back?

Frank,
what do you call someone who pays more than $5k for a rusty farm truck?

Personally I have never seen so many schister dealings until I got into this rover stuff. i kind of expect seeing threads like this at least once a week on a rover forum.
 

Mongo

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I'd say anyone who buy's a rusty farm truck is stupid, one that finds and buy's a 110 in good condition got lucky…

As for the shit over on 90source, ULC has treated some well, others like dog shit. There's a lot more to this that we don't know about. What funny is the guy's defending him are the same ones that have burned others at the stake for doing what ULC is doing, flipping parts from the UK and shipping them to unsuspecting customers in the US.
 
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As for the shit over on 90source, ULC has treated some well, others like dog shit. There's a lot more to this that we don't know about. What funny is the guy's defending him are the same ones that have burned others at the stake for doing what ULC is doing, flipping parts from the UK and shipping them to unsuspecting customers in the US.

Bingo!

I like to use the CVC for sale thread as a perfect example. CVC had a pretty cool Defender up for grabs. Blue hard top with SD exocage, lift, tires, protection, etc... Clean truck. Not heavy mod'ed, but a nice, clean truck. He was asking something like $22k. Even today that's a great price for such a truck (if you were looking to buy a Defender).

CVC's truck took months to sell.

In the mean time a white 1995 rust bucket came up for sale. Salvage title, rust, no mods....a piece of shit truck. The asking price was $13k. Those asshole over at D90 tried cutting each others dicks off to get to that truck. They stabbed each other in the back to get that truck home.
 
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It think he would have to pay shipping both ways and provide the crate.

I got a 4.6 from Randy Williams. Granted it's only a 200 mile trip, the freight was shy of $150.00. He just strapped it to a pallet. I can't imagine the costs would be over $500 both ways.

But then again, why bother? I would not send an engine back to this guy to have fixed. The OP just needs to write this one off as a lesson learned. It's been too long.
 

emmodg

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I think the OP arrived at the shipping price by adding up the wood he'd buy to make the crate, the day missing work, the gas it takes him to drive back and forth from the shipping drop off and the actual shipping costs....He's probably not tooo far off.

It sounds like a shit show BUT (and that's a big but!) he was told the engine was a good engine that had gone through an "inspection" and service. IF that was the case he should have been able to keep the engine in a crate for 10 years and not have it seized up! Period. I helped a buddy pull a Honda 4-wheeler out of the woods - it had been there for 5 or six years UN-COVERED - the seat was torn up, the plastice were faded and broken and the air box was wide open. We pulled the plug, cleaned it, poured some oil in the cylinder, kicked it over 3 or 4 times, put the plug back in and she fired right the F up! My point is - the dude was sold a POS product - he was lied to. He didn't buy a pastry with a "shelf life" he bought an engine, a diesel engine and it didn't work. He was ripped off!

My other beef - Why do people buy these busted-up, rusted, ENGLISH (not German, not Asian -ENGLISH) 20-year old USED parts from these "importers"? One of the shortest books ever written - "The History of Dependable English Antique Vehicles". There are literally MILLIONS of Defenders - they weren't rare, they weren't "limited production" and yet there seems to be a steady line of people willing to pay over-inflated prices for this shit! I'm in the wrong business!
 
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My other beef - Why do people buy these busted-up, rusted, ENGLISH (not German, not Asian -ENGLISH) 20-year old USED parts from these "importers"? One of the shortest books ever written - "The History of Dependable English Antique Vehicles". There are literally MILLIONS of Defenders - they weren't rare, they weren't "limited production" and yet there seems to be a steady line of people willing to pay over-inflated prices for this shit! I'm in the wrong business!

Come on, look who you're dealing with. These are the same people who hate their life. They're miserable folks. They live in a tiny box in a subdivision, work way too many hours each week, and have a spouse who they hate but can't get rid of because they have kids together who are spoiled brats. If they ever did end up in divorce the ex would take 1/2 of the little they do have, the Defender would be sold out of spite, and the guy would be left to pay for a college education tailored for a job that no longer exists for the kids. Not to mention alimony to the selfish bitch they married. NONE of these guys want to lose their Defender - that would be a sign of weakness.

So to keep the little sanity they do have left the Defender owner hides in his 20'x20' two car garage (with the door shut so he does not piss off the home owners association) under the like-new mountain bikes hanging from the ceiling and beside the wife's BMW, drinks IPA's because they heard they were good, and attempts to build something they read about on the internet. They'd be just as happy with a Polaris Ranger side-by-side at a fraction of the cost for the three times a year they actually make it to the woods, but they're not able to drive it to Whole Foods and get the same attention they would from other married men living in a high density metro area. This is what makes them feel like a mans-man. The only problem with that is they can't tell the difference between a good engine or a bad engine or why a 220V welder is better than their flux-core 110V Farm Hand. Because of this they get pussy hurt when they're ripped off and turn to the internet and bitch about the problems in their life when really if they were half the man they thought they were they would have known better in the first place.

Now, with that said, who wants to buy a 2010 Defender 110 with a 1985 title?
 

Mongo

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I bought my 110 before it was the "cool" thing to do…

ULC is piling the bullshit pretty high with warranty policies like this:
"We purchase running vehicles and motors at our location in the UK. All of our motors are 120,000 or less from known vehicles, shops or owners. They are not breaker yard pull outs! On that side we drive (if possible), test run, and pressure test the motors. They are then shipped here via sea freight. Once on this side we really dig into the motors. Each one is fully cleaned and examined. We test run the motor to make sure it is good then we perform a series of tests to ensure the motor is in great shape. We are just now starting to provide video of the motors on line as well"

The engine in question had blocked water passages, a rusted piston and head and could not be cranked by hand…I'm sure that when they test ran it in the UK and saw the white smoke they couldn't get the "SHIP TO US" sticker on it fast enough.
 

jymmiejamz

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But then again, why bother? I would not send an engine back to this guy to have fixed. The OP just needs to write this one off as a lesson learned. It's been too long.

That's exactly what I said in that thread. Why waste your time, he could have the engine running now.
 

jymmiejamz

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Come on, look who you're dealing with. These are the same people who hate their life. They're miserable folks. They live in a tiny box in a subdivision, work way too many hours each week, and have a spouse who they hate but can't get rid of because they have kids together who are spoiled brats. If they ever did end up in divorce the ex would take 1/2 of the little they do have, the Defender would be sold out of spite, and the guy would be left to pay for a college education tailored for a job that no longer exists for the kids. Not to mention alimony to the selfish bitch they married. NONE of these guys want to lose their Defender - that would be a sign of weakness.

So to keep the little sanity they do have left the Defender owner hides in his 20'x20' two car garage (with the door shut so he does not piss off the home owners association) under the like-new mountain bikes hanging from the ceiling and beside the wife's BMW, drinks IPA's because they heard they were good, and attempts to build something they read about on the internet. They'd be just as happy with a Polaris Ranger side-by-side at a fraction of the cost for the three times a year they actually make it to the woods, but they're not able to drive it to Whole Foods and get the same attention they would from other married men living in a high density metro area. This is what makes them feel like a mans-man. The only problem with that is they can't tell the difference between a good engine or a bad engine or why a 220V welder is better than their flux-core 110V Farm Hand. Because of this they get pussy hurt when they're ripped off and turn to the internet and bitch about the problems in their life when really if they were half the man they thought they were they would have known better in the first place.

Now, with that said, who wants to buy a 2010 Defender 110 with a 1985 title?

That's deep! I just drive a Defender because its the only vehicle I could buy that is British and doesn't depreciate in value.
 

Beagle Bones

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They'd be just as happy with a Polaris Ranger side-by-side at a fraction of the cost for the three times a year they actually make it to the woods


I've thought and said this very thing several times. The money tied up in my buggy is silly for the amount of time I get to use it. It may not see the trail again until next year at my current pace of repair, mods, and repaint. Not to mention the truck and car hauler for the damn thing. I sometimes wish I still had my '04 D2 - slightly mod'ed. Probably would've been cheaper to buy a new razor and suitable trailer. I could have easily pulled it behind the '04. It was no Defender, but it was still a good looking truck.