So am I justified in wanting this?

The Limey

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I won an auction on ebay on the 13th of this month for a used 4.0 motor....payed with paypal there and then...waited a few days to get a confirmation of shipping and such to no avail...email the seller and discovered the motor had not yet been pulled...(Hmm...not a good sign IMHO...if you sell shit on ebay have it ready to ship as soon as payment is received in my book)...So I hang on in the hope that by this week I can get it...Nope, seems the sellers mother passed away 5 days after I made payment and they have been tied up with that issue...I am now @14 days and no motor so I have requested a refund..seller now tells me he has payed the freight co and will be out the $200 in shipping (the motor hasnt been sent yet)...He asksa that I bear with him and I will have the motor by monday....My truck has been out of reliable commission for 4-5 weeks and this was going to enable me to visit family etc etc...
Am I wrong to want a full refund?
I have yet to take it up with Ebay and Paypal.

Marcus
 

ZROVER

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shoot man sorry you had to wait. And the fact the motor was not pulled yet. that is a bunch of crap too. good luck with getting it

Zack
 

Roverdoc

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get your money...should be able to take action through paypal...they will withdraw the funds for you..cheers.
 

maxyedor

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You should be entitled to a full refund. It is too bad that his mother passed away, but the engine should have been ready to ship the monent he listed it on ebay.
 
get your money back and tell him you will buy it as soon as it is ready to ship. have him relist it with a buy it now and then you will be beter coverd by ebay and paypal. just so you know 1/2 your parts are boxed i need to get another big box for the rest.
 

LR Max

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ABORT!!!

Excuses excuses. There are plenty of other 4.0 engines out there. Just E-mail the guy and say that the transaction is cancelled and get your money back.

In terms of internet dealings, if the jackass can't have it sorted out in a week, then its bad news. Quit while you are ahead.
 
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another110

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I'd agree. I had a deal with a grey market d-90 go down kinda the same way. Was out an airline ticket to Reno when the seller suddenly had to leave town, and when he got back he learned his dad had sold the truck for him.

I give people the benefit of the doubt. But on a world wide market like eBay, it's not your corner hardware shop you know is going to make good on the deal. It's some stranger sitting in front of a monitor who has never met you.
 
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syoung

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You don't pay for shipping before a pickup- they guy's full of it.
 
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frickjp

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Roverdoc said:
they will withdraw the funds for you..cheers.

No, they will ask nicely for the seller to give the funds back. If it isn't in his account any longer, you're not getting a refund any time soon...
 

XtremeMarine

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I wanted to let you know Marcus, that I know where you are coming from , and I feel your pain. I would be upset in that situation as well. In fact I am basically going through what you are right now. I wish I knew your truck was down. Now you have a good excuse to go pick up your TT from up North. Need a co-driver?
 

Dan Erickson

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I had a sort of similar issue.

The seller did not send the item I paid for (within minutes of the auction), for over a month.

Pay Pal told me that after a month, they could not guarantee that they could get my money back.

Because I had my Pay Pal account set up to draw from my credit card, I was able to call them, and they yanked the money from Pay Pal.

Eventualy, PP came through and got the money, but I wasn't so sure they would have tried so hard if it were not THEIR money they were tying to get back.
 

XtremeMarine

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When my engine overheated and blew 5 weeks ago, I had to look for another longblock or spend some serious green going through my 4.0 and rebuilding the entire engine. I decided on a 4.6 engine conversion instead.
I started looking through all of the usual channels in the area and on websites. I found a seller who happened to have a longblock 4.6 at a price which I thought was reasonable, and close ebnough to East coast of Florida, where I could pick it up and save on crating and shipping charges.
I went over to pick up the engine and immediately was concerned because it had a GEMS 4.0 intake on it. I was told by the seller that it was only his intake, off of his D1 so that it would work with his truck. I could switch over my intake, and everything would be fine. Okay, I bit and went away with it.
I brought the engine the next day to the dealership, and they ran the engine numbers; and verified it was a 4.6 block, and new heads. But out of a P38, not a DII ... A GEMS motor, not a BOSCH.
It took a 2000.00 parts bill to change enough parts over to make this engine BOSCH compliant. Once the engine was installed, we had no compression on number 3 cylinder. Add another 1500.00 for dissassembly, cleaning, valve job, and reassembly. There was so much carbon on the heads that the exhaust valve was stuck open. (And the seller had told me that there was only 4k miles on the engine since the rebuild and brand new heads. Now that all of the little things are taken care of, we are looking at another week of fine tuning and reprogramming the ecu, and I might get my truck back. I talked to the seller, and now his story has completely changed. He is telling me that I told him I had GEMS, he told me he had a GEMS, and that when I saw the Different intake, he once again told me it was GEMS. I paid through Paypal, but with the engine almost all done, and a month gone by, I don't think I will get anything back. I was completely F'ed over by an independent, who I thought had a good reputation in the Rover community, and a Dealership has been doing an engine swap they should not actually even be doing, and discounting me and charging me book because they like me. Complete 180 of what I thought would happen. Good luck with your project, Marcus. And Happy Rovering.
 

rmuller

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Say that you're willing to pay him once he has it pulled and you have confirmation that it is ready to ship... ask for an immediate refund and tell him that if its not refunded within 1 day you'll go to paypal. Like Dan said before, after 30 days, paypal makes it difficult to contest things... thats why everyone who paid KVT with paypal wasn't able to get their money back.
 

scottjal

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With Paypal you have one month (30 days) to report problems with a transaction, the help they will lend you goes way down if you fall outside of that time.

Get your money back now while you can.
 

The Limey

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rmuller said:
Say that you're willing to pay him once he has it pulled and you have confirmation that it is ready to ship... ask for an immediate refund and tell him that if its not refunded within 1 day you'll go to paypal. Like Dan said before, after 30 days, paypal makes it difficult to contest things... thats why everyone who paid KVT with paypal wasn't able to get their money back.
He's already been payed...I'm now at the point where if its not here by monday I'm goin gto hit up oaypal and get the refund...After all this waiting I have now secured a Diesel motor anyway and this will be a surplus motor to my needs...

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