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MUSKYMAN said:
Musky- please can you specify the set-up you describe above? I am an experienced "dry-veldt" (savannah) offroader (mil trained) but I am now in a tropical jungle enviro...
Ha! D Chapman, that made my day!
But roverover is right, good info is good info, i read through these things to learn something new, so dont lash out at people that are only trying to give you good advice
But roverover is right, good info is good info, i read through these things to learn something new, so dont lash out at people that are only trying to give you good advice
Panama Jack said:
sure no problem
the guys that do a 2" lift or as I had(back in the day) on mine a factory land rover HD spring kit, then add sliders, a solid HD rear bumper and a front winch bumper end up at maybe 1/2" of lift over stock height. the weight of the body protection negates the lift.
this set up when run with a lighter tire such as a 235 85 16 will flex very well but the weight of the tires wont destroy the drivetrain. these trucks with stock rear shafts and stock CV's are really tough trucks. once you start putting wider heavier tires on them they start breaking these drivetrain components .
Because the truck isnt much taller then stock and the weight is all bolted on pretty low on the truck the thing wont get tippy. This allows a person new to the world of off-roading a very stable easy to drive truck that will allow them to lern the driving skills to take them a long way down even some very technical trails.
the amount of trimming needed to do this really isnt that much. Mostly you need to move out the rear quarter panel behind the rear tire, roll the small amount of sheet metal under the rear edge of the rear door and your ready to go.
The 235 85 16 's will then fully stuff all the way up into the wheel wells and this is a very important part of stability because if you need to limit up travel once the axle housing contacts the bump stop it starts to tilt the truck from level. Many people lower the bump stops when running bigger tires to prevent damage to the body, with the smaller tires you dont need to do this so the increased travel comes with increased stability.
the final thing to add here is shock travel. Adding some shock travel and retaining the springs will finnish the deal right. with this done you end up with a truck that will flex better then stock,carry more weight, be protected from trail damage and not break every time you hit a trail.
The disco is a great utilitarian truck. The more you move away from the basic design the more compromises you make in what it can do. The set up that I have been talking about not only is good for the newbie Disco owner but also for anybody that wants a great truck for a number of uses.
A perfect example of what I am talking about is the Camel trophy disco 1's
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MUSKYMAN said:
Probably the best post since the 'new' Dweb.
This should be required reading for anyone even thinking about 'upgrading' their truck.
MUSKYMAN said:
Good summary. I ran bone stock Scouts for years. The soft stock suspension worked very well with open diffs in Colorado's gulches. One very good setup was a friends J20 Jeep pickup on which he replaced the stout springs with softer stock height springs that was complemented with a 440 big block torque engine. We climbed moguls and rocks so easy the people sitting at the top said our climbs were 'boring'.
I like boring when off road.
Thanks, guys...
Another example of ignoring the innate abilities of stock LRs... don't mess too much with what's already very competently engineered. All I want to know is that I don't need to go any further that stock to do what I need to do... and that is simply to be able to get through hurricane damaged terrain (yeah, including the nasty stuff) to get to where I need to get.
Simple... this is not just fun, it's survival. Been there, done that. That's why it's LR. There is no other option.
Another example of ignoring the innate abilities of stock LRs... don't mess too much with what's already very competently engineered. All I want to know is that I don't need to go any further that stock to do what I need to do... and that is simply to be able to get through hurricane damaged terrain (yeah, including the nasty stuff) to get to where I need to get.
Simple... this is not just fun, it's survival. Been there, done that. That's why it's LR. There is no other option.
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Hmm,
After Hurricane Dean hit us this year I did some thinking about that.
Starting with a competent truck. Land Rover, Toyota Highlander Diesel, etc I count the following as crucial.
-Snorkel
-Plentiful "STURDY" pulling points. And from prior experience I no know its nice to already have the D-Shackles or whatever you use installe and in place if you have to hook up while under muddy water.
-Fully Serviced Rig thats ready to go.
-FULL FUEL TANK. "people always forget this but after a Hurricane Fuel can be VERY hard to find. Fill the tank, fill your spare tanks, fill your Riding Lawnmower, fill the shop truck in the Garage so you can siphon it a week later if the local Fuel Stop still doesn't have fuel"
-Tools
-Tires in good shape.
Thats it for me. Hell, I could have driven around happily in my Audi 4000 turbo quattro if it ahd a snorkel. I dont think you need a Rover to be good to go after a hurricane but rather a well maintaned, sorted rig with lots of spares and lots of fuel.
But to be relevant to this thread. I'm still stock with my D1 and have taken it many places that people laughed and said I'd never make it. But I do want to be higher, mainly because my stock springs are starting to sag after 165k miles.
cant wait to see how it feels.
After Hurricane Dean hit us this year I did some thinking about that.
Starting with a competent truck. Land Rover, Toyota Highlander Diesel, etc I count the following as crucial.
-Snorkel
-Plentiful "STURDY" pulling points. And from prior experience I no know its nice to already have the D-Shackles or whatever you use installe and in place if you have to hook up while under muddy water.
-Fully Serviced Rig thats ready to go.
-FULL FUEL TANK. "people always forget this but after a Hurricane Fuel can be VERY hard to find. Fill the tank, fill your spare tanks, fill your Riding Lawnmower, fill the shop truck in the Garage so you can siphon it a week later if the local Fuel Stop still doesn't have fuel"
-Tools
-Tires in good shape.
Thats it for me. Hell, I could have driven around happily in my Audi 4000 turbo quattro if it ahd a snorkel. I dont think you need a Rover to be good to go after a hurricane but rather a well maintaned, sorted rig with lots of spares and lots of fuel.
But to be relevant to this thread. I'm still stock with my D1 and have taken it many places that people laughed and said I'd never make it. But I do want to be higher, mainly because my stock springs are starting to sag after 165k miles.
cant wait to see how it feels.
Hmm,
After Hurricane Dean hit us this year I did some thinking about that.
Starting with a competent truck. Land Rover, Toyota Highlander Diesel, etc I count the following as crucial.
-Snorkel
-Plentiful "STURDY" pulling points. And from prior experience I no know its nice to already have the D-Shackles or whatever you use installe and in place if you have to hook up while under muddy water.
-Fully Serviced Rig thats ready to go.
-FULL FUEL TANK. "people always forget this but after a Hurricane Fuel can be VERY hard to find. Fill the tank, fill your spare tanks, fill your Riding Lawnmower, fill the shop truck in the Garage so you can siphon it a week later if the local Fuel Stop still doesn't have fuel"
-Tools
-Tires in good shape.
Thats it for me. Hell, I could have driven around happily in my Audi 4000 turbo quattro if it ahd a snorkel. I dont think you need a Rover to be good to go after a hurricane but rather a well maintaned, sorted rig with lots of spares and lots of fuel.
But to be relevant to this thread. I'm still stock with my D1 and have taken it many places that people laughed and said I'd never make it. But I do want to be higher, mainly because my stock springs are starting to sag after 165k miles.
cant wait to see how it feels.
After Hurricane Dean hit us this year I did some thinking about that.
Starting with a competent truck. Land Rover, Toyota Highlander Diesel, etc I count the following as crucial.
-Snorkel
-Plentiful "STURDY" pulling points. And from prior experience I no know its nice to already have the D-Shackles or whatever you use installe and in place if you have to hook up while under muddy water.
-Fully Serviced Rig thats ready to go.
-FULL FUEL TANK. "people always forget this but after a Hurricane Fuel can be VERY hard to find. Fill the tank, fill your spare tanks, fill your Riding Lawnmower, fill the shop truck in the Garage so you can siphon it a week later if the local Fuel Stop still doesn't have fuel"
-Tools
-Tires in good shape.
Thats it for me. Hell, I could have driven around happily in my Audi 4000 turbo quattro if it ahd a snorkel. I dont think you need a Rover to be good to go after a hurricane but rather a well maintaned, sorted rig with lots of spares and lots of fuel.
But to be relevant to this thread. I'm still stock with my D1 and have taken it many places that people laughed and said I'd never make it. But I do want to be higher, mainly because my stock springs are starting to sag after 165k miles.
cant wait to see how it feels.
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