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The origin of this gesture is highly speculative, but is quite possibly up to 2500 years old. It is identified as the digitus impudicus ('impudent finger') in Ancient Roman writings [1] and reference is made to using the finger in the Ancient Greek comedy The Clouds by Aristophanes. It was defined there as a gesture intended to insult another.
It has long been told that the famous "two-fingers salute" and/or "V sign" derives from the gestures of English archers, fighting at Agincourt. The myth claims that the French cut off two fingers on the right hand of captured archers and that the gesture was a sign of defiance by those who were not mutilated.
Jean Froissart (circa 1337-circa 1404) was a historian and the author of Froissart's Chronicles, a document that is essential to an understanding of Europe in the fourteenth century and to the twists and turns taken by the Hundred Years' War. The story of the English waving their fingers at the French is told in the first person account by Jean Froissart. However, the description is not of an incident at the Battle of Agincourt, but rather at the siege of a castle nearby in the Hundred Years' War. Adding to the evidence is that by all accounts Jean Froissart died before the battle actually took place; it was therefore rather difficult for him to have written about it.
One should note that Jean Froissart's writings aren't the most reliable and that a similar story is told about the English giving the V sign. This can be further explored at the Battle of Agincourt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_finger
It has long been told that the famous "two-fingers salute" and/or "V sign" derives from the gestures of English archers, fighting at Agincourt. The myth claims that the French cut off two fingers on the right hand of captured archers and that the gesture was a sign of defiance by those who were not mutilated.
Jean Froissart (circa 1337-circa 1404) was a historian and the author of Froissart's Chronicles, a document that is essential to an understanding of Europe in the fourteenth century and to the twists and turns taken by the Hundred Years' War. The story of the English waving their fingers at the French is told in the first person account by Jean Froissart. However, the description is not of an incident at the Battle of Agincourt, but rather at the siege of a castle nearby in the Hundred Years' War. Adding to the evidence is that by all accounts Jean Froissart died before the battle actually took place; it was therefore rather difficult for him to have written about it.
One should note that Jean Froissart's writings aren't the most reliable and that a similar story is told about the English giving the V sign. This can be further explored at the Battle of Agincourt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_finger
i thought
that due to the lack of T.P. the middle finger was used and therfore a sign of discourtesy to flip it.
as in the middle east you eat with your rt hand while your left stays far away from the table and Handshakes.
jim
that due to the lack of T.P. the middle finger was used and therfore a sign of discourtesy to flip it.
as in the middle east you eat with your rt hand while your left stays far away from the table and Handshakes.
jim
jimjet said:
yeah but that is only the muslims something in the Koran against toilet paper. :rofl:
slangel said:
im suprised he covered it
im definately an ignorant asshole so muslims please dont take this as an insult.
But i was told by Muslims who go to Mecca for there hage, that it is holy for men to crap there pants during this holy time as they might be giving birth to alah or simulating it.
educate me please
jim
jimjet said:
I'm not sure if that is true or not - I did live there quite a bit off and on for several years, but I didn't venture out of our compound very much because I had to always be accompanied by my brother or dad - but the sand kicking happened quite often when we were out and they had water hoses on the side of buidings in a couple of cities for "rinsing" purposes. It has been a bit of time since I've been back though. Wasn't a big fan of public be-headings!
I was picked up and invited out by friends who took me to a public hand severing.slangel said:
cut the guys hands off at the wrists.
it was COOL man.
jim
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