The gorilla

Roverlady

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I wish they would have tranq'ed the gorilla and been ready to shoot if necessary.

As a parent I know how fast a kid can be...but I also watch mine like a hawk or hold her, etc. in dangerous/busy places.

As an animal lover and someone who studied biology/zoology, etc. I don't think the gorilla would have intentionally harmed it but rather was scared and confused. If he had landed in there with a lion/tiger some other predator I think they would have been more likely to attack.

But, in the end, I think they made the best quick decision they could have made given the (extremely rare) circumstances.
 

emmodg

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I'm going to agree with Garrett here. I hate zoos and always have.

"Look at the wild animals kids. Oh shit! The wild animal is being a wild animal! Quick - kill it!"

The "mother" - and I use the term lightly here - fucked up. Plain and simple. She fucked up and the animal paid the price. The zoo has an obligation to seek damages. An animal paid for and existing at the pleasure of the taxpayer was destroyed for someone's mistake. You hit a fucking guardrail or street light and a town will bill the driver - I guess if you have an animal destroyed it's "forgiven"?

The "Why don't these hippies, freaks, animal lovers get angry when a human is shot or murdered?"- argument is a popular one, and all too mis-used. I'm always angry and certainly sorry that another one of my own "species" is killed or dies; however, we are the "highest level" of primates. We can reason, we can choose, we can disagree and refuse, we can fight back. We're responsible- or should be - for our actions. We can choose to harm another human or not. We're conscious of what our own "species" is capable of. I think I can say with some degree of certainty that that gorilla didn't choose to be in a zoo/cage, he didn't "reason" his way in an enclosure to serve out his life as entertainment for us. If we're going to choose to use an animal for pleasure, or entertainment, or as an educational tool we damn well better accept responsibility for that animal and demand respect from others towards it - hell, that's what t means to be human in many respects! A rare animal was destroyed for no other reason than it behaved JUST like it is supposed to! Why do some choose to put an animal in that situation in the first place?

Fuck a zoo!
 

K-rover

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Risky click of the day. Withstood temptation.

LOL. Spoiler alert** guy falls in the tiger pen and the tiger drags him away and eats him!

All you really see is the tiger grabbing the guy by the throat and dragging him away like a gazelle
 

emmodg

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And by the way. I value my dog's life over the Leader of North Korea's life, Putin's life, Assad's life, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's life. I certainly value(d) his life more than OBL's life. I'll save the nearest stray cat's life over the nearest pedophile's life. Priests who have sex with little boys have most certainly placed themselves very low on the evolutionary scale. I'd "rescue" an earthworm off a hot sidewalk before I'd give two shits for some morally and ethically bankrupt boy-fucking priest. Am I somehow less human?
 

az_max

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Why wasn't the zoo enclosure built better? If a 4yo can get over the wall, you need to reevaluate your enclosures.
 

Mike_Rupp

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And by the way. I value my dog's life over the Leader of North Korea's life, Putin's life, Assad's life, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's life. I certainly value(d) his life more than OBL's life. I'll save the nearest stray cat's life over the nearest pedophile's life. Priests who have sex with little boys have most certainly placed themselves very low on the evolutionary scale. I'd "rescue" an earthworm off a hot sidewalk before I'd give two shits for some morally and ethically bankrupt boy-fucking priest. Am I somehow less human?

Most people who are killed in Chicago are a result of being in the cross fire of gang shoot outs. I don't give a flying fuck if some gang killer gets whacked. I do care when some innocent little girl gets shot while playing in her house, yet those murdered kids never get a hashtag.
 

kennith

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The point of a zoo is supposed to be allowing access to potentially endangered animals for the purposes of awareness; the idea being that seeing the animal in person will be awe-inspiring, and seeing it at the mercy of human keepers will also reinforce that point. At the same time, education is meant to be provided to help people understand the issue.

One of our presidents made a point of capturing and killing exotic animals for the purposes of conservation.

Now, that's the way it's supposed to be today; not a sideshow, but a conservation effort. Saving the individual animal is merely incidental.

That's not necessarily the way it is, though, and it hasn't turned out to be the most effective teaching method out there. The animals aren't always treated well, and those who might be interested in conservation tend to focus on the wrong points.

As for the gorilla, I don't see any reason why it should have been killed. It's fucking bullshit. The parent and the keeper are at fault, and every person in the crowd who saw that kid climbing and did nothing is accountable, as well.

The gorilla was just being a gorilla. What the fuck do people expect?

Cheers,

Kennith
 

fishEH

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Ehhhh, I don't know about all that. Zoos offer a learning experience that can't be achieved, even with thousands of dollars, in the wild. And Google is no substitute for hearing a lion's roar in person. Not to mention these Zoos have existed long before Google was ever thought of.

A lot of zoos take in animals that would otherwise be euthanized. And every zoo I've ever been to is practically shoving animal protection/conservation down your throat.


Zoo's in general are just shitty places. I find them very odd. We take wild animals, put them in a box and ogle over them. For what? What is your kid learning? Or is it the experience? Same goes for that dump in Orlando - SeaWorld. Take the risk in the wild or Google that shit. Exploiting wild animals so your fat, annoying kid can rub his booger laden hands all over the glass isn't something I'm keen on I guess. Take them to a Wal Mart to see large animals in their native habitat.
 

ERover82

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As for the gorilla, I don't see any reason why it should have been killed.

You think this is big news? Suppose the keepers tranquilize the gorilla , but before it passes out it gets bored and dismembers the little boy in a display of terror and suffering. That'd be news of an even more sickening kind.

Either way it sucks. Fix the damn fence.
 

pinkytoe69

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You think this is big news? Suppose the keepers tranquilize the gorilla , but before it passes out it gets bored and dismembers the little boy in a display of terror and suffering. That'd be news of an even more sickening kind.

And if that scenario happened you bet your ass there would also be an enormous uproar of:

"If a white kid fell in there they definitely would have killed the gorilla"
 

hks3sgte

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robertf

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And if that scenario happened you bet your ass there would also be an enormous uproar of:

"If a white kid fell in there they definitely would have killed the gorilla"

Jabari went after a black kid before Dallas PD took him out