The LWB handles like a pig

Gumarcel

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utahdog2003 said:
I've been doing that for about 4 weeks now...

Ahh yes, the advantage of living in Indiana and Ohio. Sure there are Tornado's, but they only seem to hit trailer parks, so I am pretty safe.
 

Gumarcel

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utahdog2003 said:
You have to play with the Element first hand to feel the love. I felt the things were nasty looking too, until I went to the dealer to buy a Pilot and got sidetracked.

Boat loads of room, good mileage, quick on the highway, and I can load it up with wet dogs and scuba equipment!

I know the thing looks like a Coleman cooler, but you know...sometimes a cooler is absolutely bad-ass too!

But come on, it is horrible, body cladding :eek: :eek: :eek: . Well it may seem functional, but it is but ugly. The disco has enough room and quick enough for me.
 

utahdog2003

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Gumarcel said:
Ahh yes, the advantage of living in Indiana and Ohio. Sure there are Tornado's, but they only seem to hit trailer parks, so I am pretty safe.

yeah, but the disadvantage is of course, that you live in Indiana and Ohio.

as for the Disco vs Element foolishness you missed the point. If you're too young to have experienced sour carpet, put wet scuba gear for 4 in your Disco for a day and you'll understand. Wait...I remember now. Indiana.

Put a sweaty Reggie Miller and a sack of corn in your Disco for a day and you'll understand.
 

JSQ

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I'd say the M1 and virtually every other ItalDesign bodied car is beautiful.

Randy Cunningham's might run in two weeks at our classic speed festival.
Solid.

Bimmer did a good buyers guide last year. A lot of the cars have suffered from lack of use. Decomposing seals and the like.



Currently I own both ends of the JD Power spectrum and I say the survey is dead on. I love both cars. Both have personality. The P-car is dead-on-reliable-my-word-is-like-oak and Solhuill's finest is, well, not. Wouldn't trade either, but the survey is right.

For all around bestest transport I gotta go with Blue. Any Bimmer 3 series. My E36 was awsome! Just downright good at everything and above all else still FUN TO DRIVE!
 

GregH

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JSQ said:
I'd say the M1 and virtually every other ItalDesign bodied car is beautiful.

You're still looking at a 25-year-old, largely italian-built BMW. Not my pick for a daily driver. Give me something relatively new, dependable, economical, that is cheap and easy to fix, AND FUN to drive.
 

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Blue said:
That M1 is awesome.
Yeah, and with only 455 built, I doubt you would ever see one as a daily driver. If I had it I would park it in the living room every night.
 

Gumarcel

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utahdog2003 said:
yeah, but the disadvantage is of course, that you live in Indiana and Ohio.

as for the Disco vs Element foolishness you missed the point. If you're too young to have experienced sour carpet, put wet scuba gear for 4 in your Disco for a day and you'll understand. Wait...I remember now. Indiana.

Put a sweaty Reggie Miller and a sack of corn in your Disco for a day and you'll understand.

Truthfully I would rather live in Indiana than Flordia. Granted, I have never lived in Flordia, but I have lived in a tropical type envionment (Hawaii) and I like Indiana much better. Snow is awesome and cold is awesome. So whatever, I don't have to worry about those hurricanes and such. And there is more than corn in Indiana, well there is very little near me. And as long as I don't get shot by a crack head while at school in Ohio, I am happy.
 

kennith

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I do park in my living room. My house is built inside another building. ;)

Cars with character don't allways have to be unreliable. I like to make sure those I have are in perfect condition all the time. I don't take any chances. On the Disco II the wiring loom is comeing out soon, to be replaced by one of my standard, although, if you compare directly between manufacturers, you will find LR underpinnings and small pieces are of better quality than most.

I'm about to completly refit an old S-10, and as well, an "unreliable" Range rover's engine is about to be put back together after fixing the previous owners half-ass work. I've seen cars touted as unreliable survive in the worst possible conditions. I've seen stock BMWs taken across terrain every day that some people on this board wouldn't cross in their rovers. I've fit a 1971 Range rover V-8 with a turbocharger to compete in the safari rally. It had been in the bush almost all it's life with essentially rigged basic repairs done whenever needed, and almost 400,000 miles on the clock. You don't want to know some of the things that have been done to it.

I suppose my point is that vehicles designed to their own extremes, that is, performing at the top level in their class, are going to be finniky. They NEED certain gas, they NEED their oil changed on schedual, they NEED the seals replaced constantly, and they also NEED a driver who actually cares enough to do that. The vehicles consumer reports complains about are often some of the most relied on transport in the most unreliable conditions around the world. Our yuppies, however, dissapprove of them... I wonder why?

My dream cars:

Everyday- My discovery

Work- 110 high cap with a rag top

Off road- My discovery

Track- Caterham R500 Superlight

Touring- BMW/ Alpina z8 with origional dash conversion


Cheers,

Kennith
 

Robert Godshall

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To be quite honest I can dig "unreliable" cars I like to work on them (even with as much as I bitch about it during the process). It give me a certain kind of stratification of knowing that I fixed the problem at hand and that I did it right. But maybe I?m just sick in the head. Cars are only as reliable as the owner is when it comes to general maintenance (you know the stuff you should have learned on your first car). If the owner does not care about the vehicle obviously the vehicle condition will deteriorate over time.

This concludes my current statement
Robert Godshall

Dream cars:

Work: Ford F-350

Play: The RRC

Track: Nissan 350Z

Touring: Who knows i just get in a car and drive somewhere

Off Road: What do you think

And just to say I have one: '54 Mercury coupe (custom :cool: )