The Walking Dead
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I'm starting to get a little annoyed with the lack of resourcefulness of the characters,
Examples: they have to go into Atlanta to get guns/supplies? Really? This is Georgia, break into a house, a gun store or a Wal-mart in any small town.
Driving old pieces of crap - go steal a decent car/truck. Need tools? Go to Home Depot/Lowes/Sears/car parts store.
Other than that, I like the show.
Examples: they have to go into Atlanta to get guns/supplies? Really? This is Georgia, break into a house, a gun store or a Wal-mart in any small town.
Driving old pieces of crap - go steal a decent car/truck. Need tools? Go to Home Depot/Lowes/Sears/car parts store.
Other than that, I like the show.
SGaynor said:
Good points regarding the old cars, tools. etc. That is the problem with shows/movies like this one. The would feel more realistic and easier to relate to if those things were considered and implemented. No other humans who are alive around and they are arguing about a pair of bolt cutters and a hose for the RV. Plus it is not like the tools go bad like perishable items do. So there has to be an overabundance of them, vehicles, gas, etc. Good show other than that though.
The gun shit is a little annoying.
When our hero is handed four rounds of what looks to be .40S&W ammo and in the next shot loads four rounds into his .357 Magnum.
I just grumble and keep watching.
When our hero is handed four rounds of what looks to be .40S&W ammo and in the next shot loads four rounds into his .357 Magnum.
I just grumble and keep watching.
Unless these resources were all absorbed in a panic right before the virus completely turned most of the population into zombies.
But yeah, it would seem they could find a lot more supplies in their current surroundings rather than having to go back into downtown Atlanta.
But yeah, it would seem they could find a lot more supplies in their current surroundings rather than having to go back into downtown Atlanta.
like the guy in the tank- instant zombie squishing, fire it upo, drive around for a bit crushing them, or fire the big freakin' gun. WHY get out of it?
I finally caved and Hulu'd episode one the other day. The end was horribly distubing as he let's his faithful steed get consumed by zombies. But I'll agree that the stupidity of the characters who have managed to survive so far is unbelievable. "Hey let me jump in my ride and travel far away before siphoning fuel from as many cars as I possibly can. And forget swiping a truck to haul around my supplies and fuel reserves, my cop car will be more than sufficient."
Not sure if I liked it enough to watch it again.
Not sure if I liked it enough to watch it again.
ukoffroad said:
That's what I thought. He didn't even try to operate it. Atleast get some zombie killing satisfaction for his horse being eaten.
Big Papa said:
I can't fathom a situation in which I wouldn't at least "try" to use a tank...ever.
Going back to the zombie behavior for this show... These zombies will never progress. The zombies will actually start to become more of a backdrop in the show as more character development continues. Of course, I say this as though they will stay true to the comic. Hollywoood has proven that they can screw up a good story too often.
Anyway, I enjoyed the first 3 episodes and will continue to watch more. They are sort of following the books and what they are following correctly, they are doing VERY well at.
Anyway, I enjoyed the first 3 episodes and will continue to watch more. They are sort of following the books and what they are following correctly, they are doing VERY well at.
stevenr said:
I gotta agree with you on the zombies fading into the background and being substituted with character development and human actions in the zombie filled world. The last episode struck me as such where there were no zombies, but the one eating the deer; instead dialogue and group interaction seemed to fill the episode. Screw that, who cares about group dynamics, I want to see zombies trying to eat the surviving humans and the latter blasting them away with anything available on hand (handguns, tanks, etc.).
Aside from that, what happened to the armored vehicles, i.e. police, military, etc? And again, granted it is Hollywood and 99.9% of the time movies do not mirror reality by any means, I feel like despite a good idea as in this case, its going to be another lesson in human relations.
JustAddMtns said:
Exactly. Talk about a joyride, just blast a path and crush the rest. Tanks run on Diesel, right?
stu454 said:
I was not sure myself, caused a debate with my son, the characters referred to rounds for the Python (presumably 357 Colt Python "The finest revolver ever made") but the rounds from the gym bag did not look right. Which prompted the best handgun for killing zombies debate and the whole revolver-v-automatic choice debate. So i thought I would consult the dweb zombie experts for their opinions.
The guy handcuffed on the roof at the end of the last episode, looked as if he had chopped his own hand off to escape the handcuffs, presumably he reached the saw from the toolbag with his belt (why did he not use his boots and the belt combined to reach the saw?) and when and if he reached the saw why did he chop his hand and not the 1/2 diameter pipe support? If the door was still chained how did he get down off the roof?
According to my resident zombie expert and the book "The Zombie Survival Guide" and conversations over dinner.
Zombies can walk underwater, because they do not need to breath and are too stupid to know they are underwater, watch out for zombies climbing up your anchor chain on your yacht. Offshore Islands may not be safe. Would there be zombie sharks?
To kill a zombie requires a head shot or decapitation, if you only wound them they will still crawel after you and bite your ankles, wear heavy boots.
Jury still out on zombies eating other animals, zombies crave brains. If animals become infected thats a serious additional problem. is a bite from a mosquito which has feed on infected blood going to infect a human and turn him into a zombie?
The lack of resourcefulness of the characters is disappointing, however the baseball cap wearing street smart teenager calling the Sheriff 'dumb-ass' is very popular apparently among teenager demographics. Interesting that with his scrounging expeditions that he has not acquired a firearm for himself.
Of course ammo runs out eventually, and guns can jam so if zombies are attracted to the sound of gunfire why is everyone not armed with samurai swords, crossbows and longbows?
Dogs, where are the dogs? apart from abandoned and possibly infected dogs roaming the city, having a good guard dog as in' I am Legend' would seem obvious. All those survivors at the campsite in the quarry and not one dog.
Rover Mac - you sir, are dead on. If this was real, swords, bows, and armor would all be absolute top priority. However, I'm not certain a katana would be ideal - the balde is a bit more fragile than say, a European shortsword... Also, the length of the blade could make handling it in the maw potentially awkward, and the reach it provides not an adequate benefit all told. A viking sword would be perfect. Also keen would fireworks and anything else that could be used as a distraction. A good dog that won't bark it's head off like crazy would be a nice bonus too.
RoverMac, all good points and very valid (haha, now this sounds like a geek zombie forum, ah well). The zombie movies make about as much sense most of the time as bad action flicks starring Dolph Lundgren and the likes. I largely attribute it to Hollywood's desire to sell a more action packed flick, rather than a well-thought out cinematographic masterpiece that is not full of holes like a block of fine Swiss cheese. Most people who do not know the difference between weapons, vehicles, etc. simply watch flicks/miniseries for pure visual stimulation, thus not even engaging their brain housing groups in any sort of critical thought analysis. I personally think that there is a way to make, let's say a zombie movie very "realistic", at least from the tactical, common sense perspective and entertaining as well. Ah well, we all know that. Back to the zombie discussion.
So now we got zombie animals and insects which brings up the point of getting infected and potentially becoming a zombie from being contaminated by the blood from a zombie. Does everyone agree that you can in fact "contract" zombiezm? Man, now granted this whole realm is utterly fictitious, there has to be a somewhat agreed upon standard for zombie behavior.
As far as tactics go, one thing that would be at least apparent to me is getting a reliable vehicle (with spare parts for it) and modifying it so it can withstand a zombie attack. There is clearly an overabundance of resources, at the very least shortly after the initial conflict, hence it would be smart to equip oneself early. Weapons, food, etc. are a no brainer as well, just like a fortified living structure of some sort with good fields of fire/observation, etc.
So now we got zombie animals and insects which brings up the point of getting infected and potentially becoming a zombie from being contaminated by the blood from a zombie. Does everyone agree that you can in fact "contract" zombiezm? Man, now granted this whole realm is utterly fictitious, there has to be a somewhat agreed upon standard for zombie behavior.
As far as tactics go, one thing that would be at least apparent to me is getting a reliable vehicle (with spare parts for it) and modifying it so it can withstand a zombie attack. There is clearly an overabundance of resources, at the very least shortly after the initial conflict, hence it would be smart to equip oneself early. Weapons, food, etc. are a no brainer as well, just like a fortified living structure of some sort with good fields of fire/observation, etc.
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I think the reason zombie flicks and the like seldom feature pragmatic, well-equipped, and tactically educated individuals with good commonsense solutions is that the stakes just wouldn't be high. Anyone who knows how to swing a sword, wear armor, shoot a bow, armor and fix a vehicle, and make appropriate tactical decisions is going to survive a zombie infestation easily. I could see this type of character being the "savior" in a zombie flick, and then being killed by some random accident, and the main characters having to "step up" and put into practice what they learned in the short time they were with Reese. ....I mean the zombie-killer dude.
knewsom said:
Yeah you are right. Nevertheless though, even with a common sense main character can always throw in a new twist, circumstances, etc. We need to write a realistic zombie script. Enough is enough.
Like dudes getting back from deployment from overseas only to find out, as they are landing that zombies are out and about. A bit far fetched, but shit we talking about zombies...
I really like the show, and i have managed to get the rest of my family hooked, I am specially thankful for the show cause it helped me achieve something I have been trying for a long time: I asked my girlfriend to pretend that the circumstances of the show were real, or imagine some sort of disaster (natural, terrorist attack, nuclear accident, whatever) and then asked her what would she do, how would she get in touch with her daughter, her mom, and so on, so we are now finally working on a disaster contingency plan, planning contact points, gathering basic survival kits, etc.