Anybody here know if a transmission taken from a 2000 4.6 Range Rover can be used in a 2000 DII? I'm sure bell housings may be different, mounts, ect, but the actual transmission itself, can it be swapped over?
Transmission swap question
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same bellhousing, but the range rover is a hp24 vs. the hp22 so it will be longer.
I think the extension housing is different on them though as they use different t-cases.
I think the extension housing is different on them though as they use different t-cases.
That's what I was wondering about was the extension housing. Should I be able to swap the extension housing from the HP22 onto tthe P38 tranny and run with it? Being the HP24 doesn't bother me, I can have the rear shaft shortened a bit, the front shaft is already TW with longer splines. Electronic controls should hook up too? Damn I wish I had both in front of me to look at.
its like a 20mm difference or so. only sucky part is the t-case wont go in with the output shaft on there. you have to pull the back pto cover and take out the gears and put the input shaft on ect...
I'm not following here, if the output shaft of the tranny needs to be changed over, why would I need to open up the PTO cover of the T-case? This is good info, I'm just not tracking.KyleT said:
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agbuckle98 said:
If you remove the PTO cover, you can extract the input gear and not have to hassle with lining the splines up.
I have one of each in the shop, I'll try to take a look and report back as the differences in the governor housing.
Thanks P.T. that makes sense. I was doing some RAVE research last night and reading all the info on both trannys I think they are the same save some subtle differences that can be swapped back and forth to make everything work. The extension housings do look different in the pics, but I would thing that would be an easy swap over item.
Well I'll on my first Rangy which was a 4.6 swapped a 4.0 tranny. When put into D the rpms would drop but letting go of the brakes the car wouldn't move. No matter how much gas you give or what gear you put it in.
Later I learnt the 4.0 tranny is a bit shorter than the 4.6 ( or is it the other way round ? )although almost similar and on the floor look the same.
Later I learnt the 4.0 tranny is a bit shorter than the 4.6 ( or is it the other way round ? )although almost similar and on the floor look the same.
i mean, you must take the output shaft off. the t-case physically wont fit far enough back to get onto the shaft, it hits the body. sorry if that was unclear.
This is almost helpfull. Can we please have those reasons? How about a list of the top 5? Your own website lists the very same part # for P38 and DII.ashtrans said:
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I see what you are getting at, but still don't understand how taking off the output shaft solves anything. If the T-case can't go back far enough to get on the shaft, then how would you ever get the output shaft back on once the T-case is in there? I would mate the 2 on the bench, then install the whole assembly in one piece.KyleT said:
During my research I did learn that GEMS P38 Range Rovers had different torque converters between the 4.0 and 4.6. That may have been your issue.desertdude said:
agbuckle98 said:
There just isn't room for the entire tc to move back far enough to put it on with the input shaft installed. There is enough room to get the input shaft in/out when the tc is in place.
agbuckle98 said:
not the same part number, same tranny type, the D2 is a 4HP22EH unless it's a 4.6, the 4.6 P38 is a 4HP24EH,
a definative list of differences will depend on the transmission box code, this is the second number down on the ID plate,
the D2 and P38 have different transfer cases so the output shaft and rear casing are different,
the valve body is different,
if the P38 is a code 1043 030 061 or 1043 030 064 the converter is different to the D2, if the P38 is a 1043 030 065 the converter is the same but you still have the above other differences,
you can make if fit if you really want to but it will need a full strip to change the output shaft and I am not sure how the valve body differences will workout.
It needs to be fully striiped down to change output shafts? A few guys here have implied that it is very easy to take the output shaft off and re-install.ashtrans said: