What, exactly, is Kerry going to do...

antichrist

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MarkP said:
Ah, attack the person, not the content and substance of the article.

Actually I was commenting on the content, lack of substance, out of context refrences, changed meanings, theorizing, etc in the article, not unlike Sean Hannity's and Rush Limbaugh's programs.
Any commentator who only points out flaws in the party/person they dislike needs to be taken, not with a grain of salt, but with a whole salt block. They kind we put in the pasture for the cattle and horses.
 

antichrist

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Good one Dan. LOL
Reminds me of the old National Lampoon cover (which I still have) with a gun pointed at the head of a Spanky and Our Gang type dog...with the threat:
If You Don't Buy this Magazine, We're Going to Shoot this Dog.
 
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the way some of you are talking on this board, i'd chalk up your intelligence to a dog not only peeing on campaign collateral, but the same dog filling out his voter card.

lay off the partisan stuff, do some non propaganda homework & vote for whats best for the country.
 

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antichrist said:
Actually I was commenting on the content, lack of substance, out of context refrences, changed meanings, theorizing, etc in the article, not unlike Sean Hannity's and Rush Limbaugh's programs.
Any commentator who only points out flaws in the party/person they dislike needs to be taken, not with a grain of salt, but with a whole salt block. They kind we put in the pasture for the cattle and horses.

Oh I thought Mark Steyn hit the nail on the head, for many this is about November 7th, 2000.


No, the big date for a lot of these people is not 9/11 but 11/7 - November 7, 2000, the date Al Gore had his election victory "stolen" from him. If you've seen Fahrenheit 9/11, you'll know that Michael Moore's film starts with a long prologue about the Florida recount, the Supreme Court decision, etc. It doesn't seem the most obvious material for inclusion in a film about Iraq, Osama and the Saudis. But, for the likes of Moore, November 7 is the issue: it's where the tale begins, it's what led to September 11, which is no more than a First Act plot-twist cunningly manipulated by Bush to obscure what the story's really about.

I don't know how many Kerry supporters I have spoke with that hate Bush and when asked what Kerry stands for give me a blank stare. They have lost perspective as Mark describes

The unemployment rate in Gallia County is 6.9 per cent, which is high compared with the US rate (5.4 per cent) but as nothing compared with Canada (7.8 per cent), France (9.7 per cent) or Germany (10.5 per cent), to name but three countries John Kerry wants to make America more like.

What's Europe's problem - socialism. And what's Kerry's economic plan? - isolationism.
 

bcroz

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But's what's even more ironic, is that when Clinton ran in 96 the unemployment rate was 5.1%. How can Kerry say our economy is rotten, talking like the whole nation is one step from a soup line in this election and in 96 support Clintons economy and policies?
 

Eric N.

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Ok, let talks polls for a second.. I'm wondering. Who had an "Election watcher"? What party were they with? What state are you in?

I'm in Northern Virginia, and we had a Dem "Poll Snitch" checking all the names as they were read off by the polling officals against their records. No Repub "Poll snitch" though which I thought was a little wierd.. I would have figured they would have one of each checking up on each other.
 

utahdog2003

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MarkP said:
Ah, attack the person, not the content and substance of the article.

There is no content to the article. The reason you keep quoting these foolish rags is they are the only pinheads stoopid enough to run this biased shit that you keep shoveling.

Time to dust off another article from The India Times :rolleyes:

Free Republic my ass.
 

bcroz

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He's right about the "content" though. A large portion of those voting democratic today are not voting for Kerry but against Bush. Many cannot tell what his specific plans are or what he really stands for (I did not say all).

As far as the poll watcher, is your county a republican majority? The reason I ask is that having a republican poll watcher in a largely republican county would be redudant. Time for them would be better spent in a county that tends to vote democratic.
 

MarkP

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utahdog2003 said:
There is no content to the article. The reason you keep quoting these foolish rags is they are the only pinheads stoopid enough to run this biased shit that you keep shoveling.

Time to dust off another article from The India Times :rolleyes:

Free Republic my ass.

Oh, sorry I didn't quote from the main stream media - NBC, CBS, ABC, NYT, CNN .... those news sources that never lie and always uphold the highest journalistic standards. Face it, their time has passed. The news and discussion is no longer controlled by the liberal press.

As for FreeRepublic you might join and enlighten yourself. I suspect you wouldn't expect this discussion to happen at FreeRepublic: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1259677/posts Just remember to bring facts and a open mind. There are a variety of opinions and discussion can occur, unlike other liberal forums.
 

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Eric N. said:
Ok, let talks polls for a second.. I'm wondering. Who had an "Election watcher"? What party were they with? What state are you in?

I'm in Northern Virginia, and we had a Dem "Poll Snitch" checking all the names as they were read off by the polling officals against their records. No Repub "Poll snitch" though which I thought was a little wierd.. I would have figured they would have one of each checking up on each other.

Here in AZ, all you have to do is tell them your name and say "I want to vote" (in English or Spanish). If they don't find you in their list, they bend over backwards to accomodate you. No ID checks whatsoever. I know that I could go home, change my shirt, and walk right back into that polling station and vote again. Or walk into any polling station for that matter. All you do is say a name, ie "Smith", and they'll look you up with you right there looking down on their book of names & addresses. I could easily say "Smith" and then point to "Robert A. Smith" and say that's me. If fact that's what I did today.....said my last name, they turn to that section and there are about 6 entries with my last name. I pointed to my name & address and said "that's me". "Here's your ballot, sir." It's a freaking joke. All these liberals out here are screaming about AZ Prop 200, which would require proof of citizenship to vote. How can you honestly be a US citizen and against a proposition like that?
 

Eric N.

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Bcroz, ussually yes, but, this election I would say no.. I think that for the first time in a long time VA might go to the Dems going by the way people were going to vote that I was in line with and the huge numbers of Kerry signs and stickers on cars and lawns in the area but, I guess we'll see..

Utahdog2003 - what's the weather going to be like in your neck of the woods for the 12th-14th? You're in Jacksonville, FL right? Weather.com doesn't go out that far. ( sorry I'm hijacking the thread.. )
 
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Eric N.

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Wow, Blue, that sucks.. At least here you have to give them a valid form of ID.. SS Card, birth cert, drivers licence, voter card and they look you up on their list to make sure that you are a registered voter in that district. Though I think you can still vote if your not but, you have to fill out some forms or some thing.
 

bcroz

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Funny with all election reform crap we've be subjected to over the last four years that something simple like this wouldnt be addressed. I wasnt asked for any ID here, just my address and birthdate which they cross referenced, checked my name off the voter roll and handed me a ballot. The township I live in is kind of small (only 928 in my prescinct, about 2900 registered in the township), but you would think they'd ask for something.
 
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Looks like from the other thread that the POS LR3/Explorer is selling well. I am thinking that in a few days its just natural that Kerry should become a "Sales guide". I think the two are made for each other :D
 

GregH

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Well, it sounds like Blue will do his part helping Kerry become a "sales guide". How many times did you vote today, Blue? ;)
 
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After The Vote

I wanted to bring up the point that American political policies are not determined by who occupies the presidency, but by the fashion in which Americans live thier day to day lives. Public activities dictate special interest groups and special interest groups dictate government. The Kyoto Protocol, ignored by the American Government, is a prime example why Americans wont take more responsibility as individuals for becoming such consumers and contributing to a global environmental crisis. The American population is generally unaware that thier consumption is creating tears in the global world. As America is occupied with whats happening in Iraq, The War on Terror and Increasing border security, the problems that controls these factors are not outside Americas borders, but within.
 

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nvirochallenged said:
I wanted to bring up the point that American political policies are not determined by who occupies the presidency, but by the fashion in which Americans live thier day to day lives. Public activities dictate special interest groups and special interest groups dictate government. The Kyoto Protocol, ignored by the American Government, is a prime example why Americans wont take more responsibility as individuals for becoming such consumers and contributing to a global environmental crisis. The American population is generally unaware that thier consumption is creating tears in the global world. As America is occupied with whats happening in Iraq, The War on Terror and Increasing border security, the problems that controls these factors are not outside Americas borders, but within.

WTF are you talking about?
and from what ive heard about the Kyoto Protocol, its a political POS based on incorrect data. Im all for the environment, and am pushing for bio-fuels on my campus, but im not buying into foreign politics that help them and not us.
 
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I'd appreciate some information backing up your statement that the Kyoto Accords are just a bunch of political "BS".