What is the meaning of "Global" anyway?

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It seems that if a satellite in geosynchronous orbit was in phase with the earth's rotational period in every case, it couldn't possibly pass 'regularly over points on the Earth,' but would remain fixed over the same point, as in the geostationary case.

I've looked online, as it seems you have, and see where your confusion arises. The web seems littered with contradictory information on this subject. I'll stick to what I remember reading from the Hughes Satellite & Communications Company web site when I bought my first 12-channel receiver some 10 years ago - and what was reinforced in the courses on celestial navigation I've taken since.
 
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With respects, Captain, this thread has significantly more views than posts. People are learning.
 
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Swa j-Ten said:
With respects, Captain, this thread has significantly more views than posts. People are learning.
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I cannot disagree with you there. To be honest, it took me three days to get through 18 pages of this thread. I ignored it when it started and finally couldn't resist.

I just felt compelled to lighten it up a bit since it is one of the heaviest and driest threads I've seen on here. I mean, when has any thread ever gone more than one page without a mention of Land Rovers, Chapman laying the smack down on Steve Young, Chris blaming all LR issues on Bosch plugs, or Garrett chiming in with at least one view on something or other?
 
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Swa j-Ten said:
It seems that if a satellite in geosynchronous orbit was in phase with the earth's rotational period in every case, it couldn't possibly pass 'regularly over points on the Earth,' but would remain fixed over the same point, as in the geostationary case.

I've looked online, as it seems you have, and see where your confusion arises. The web seems littered with contradictory information on this subject. I'll stick to what I remember reading from the Hughes Satellite & Communications Company web site when I bought my first 12-channel receiver some 10 years ago - and what was reinforced in the courses on celestial navigation I've taken since.
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You mentioned Wikipedia as your source of information (which is not necessarily a reliable source), and pretended to quote from this source. I could NOT find this quote, and posted whatever Wikipedia article on geosynchronized orbits had (the part relevant to discussion).

It it isn't clear yet, I am questioning your integrity here. You name the source and yet fail to do as little as check it out before you post it.

Now, if you gave yourself an effort to actually read the Wikipedia article, it would not be a difficult thing to understand why the object in the sky appears in periodic motion for an observer at the Earth's surface - for any geosynchronous orbit but the single case of geostationary.

It is up to you to decide what should one question here - your mental abilities or your integrity again. You laid lots of claims to scientific facts in this thread - I ignored all the biology tidbits because I have very little knowledge of the subject, but I am inclined to dismiss ALL of your arguments. You quote sources that do not exist, and you don't care to digest whatever information can easily be found.
 
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ive been sheltered in a damn christian school. so i dont know much. keep talking. im learning alot.
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That's the problem right there, but good to see you are interested in more and breaking out. It's time to drop out and get a real education. Oh, and next time you see your parents, kick them in the nuts, they are shortchanging you by sending you to a brainwashing facility.
 
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That's the problem right there, but good to see you are interested in more and breaking out. It's time to drop out and get a real education. Oh, and next time you see your parents, kick them in the nuts, they are shortchanging you by sending you to a brainwashing facility.
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Amen baby Jesus our lord and savior!

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p m said:
You mentioned Wikipedia as your source of information (which is not necessarily a reliable source), and pretended to quote from this source. I could NOT find this quote, and posted whatever Wikipedia article on geosynchronized orbits had (the part relevant to discussion).

It it isn't clear yet, I am questioning your integrity here. You name the source and yet fail to do as little as check it out before you post it.

Now, if you gave yourself an effort to actually read the Wikipedia article, it would not be a difficult thing to understand why the object in the sky appears in periodic motion for an observer at the Earth's surface - for any geosynchronous orbit but the single case of geostationary.

It is up to you to decide what should one question here - your mental abilities or your integrity again. You laid lots of claims to scientific facts in this thread - I ignored all the biology tidbits because I have very little knowledge of the subject, but I am inclined to dismiss ALL of your arguments. You quote sources that do not exist, and you don't care to digest whatever information can easily be found.
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'A geosynchronous satellite is a satellite whose orbital track on the Earth repeats regularly over points on the Earth over time' is the first line of the Wikipedia article (can't get the link to work. Type 'geosynchronous satellite' into Wikipedia's search field). Because that statement confirms what I already knew, I did not read further.

Frankly, pm? I don't care what you think of my integrity, because you seem compelled to search the web in order to disprove me when we hit on subjects I know more than you about. If you weren't so arrogant, maybe I would care what you think about my integrity.

Without using google, can you tell me the definitions of variation and deviation? How about the difference between the North American Datum of 1983 and WGS 84? Can you use a current triangle to nail your position to within 30 nautical miles when that GPS receiver of yours is out, and it has been over a day since your last fix?
 
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It's funny - when I ask you about Rovers, about which you know on the order of about 70 times as much as me, I don't go searching the Internet in an effort to disprove you
 
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It's funny - when I ask you about Rovers, about which you know on the order of about 70 times as much as me, I don't go searching the Internet in an effort to disprove you
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Because what he says is believable. If you thought he was speaking crap, you would search the internet to find facts to back you up when you call him on it. When you post this wacky cult like superstition stuff, you have to expect to be called out on it. The spaghetti monster is an obvious joke, but the parallels to all beliefs are obvious.
 
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