It seems that they even have the title wrong, 'cause this would indicate that it isn't global:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0206/p04s01-woap.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0206/p04s01-woap.html
What is the meaning of "Global" anyway?
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Wait a second! I thought GW wasn't a political issue. I thought it was all science:
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_020607_news_taylor_title.59f5d04a.html
If you get fired from your job for questioning Global Warming, do you still qualify for unemployment?
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_020607_news_taylor_title.59f5d04a.html
If you get fired from your job for questioning Global Warming, do you still qualify for unemployment?
Here is my take on the entire issue of global warming.
I'm not going to get into the science of all this, but the Spaceship Earth goes through cycles, there are influences that are not in our control that affect global temperatures(warming and cooling).
Humans are screwing up the environment. We are polluting. Smog in some cities is disgusting to the point that it's hard to breath and noticeably gross and thick.
What should be done is STOP looking at what we're doing with respect to global warming and look at it with respect to how gross the biospheres that huge portions of our population are living in have become. If we attack our polluting ways to make things better for ourselves, Spaceship Earth will use the regular processes that it's been using for a a hundred billion zillion grillion years to maintain the status quo of the environment.
I'm not going to get into the science of all this, but the Spaceship Earth goes through cycles, there are influences that are not in our control that affect global temperatures(warming and cooling).
Humans are screwing up the environment. We are polluting. Smog in some cities is disgusting to the point that it's hard to breath and noticeably gross and thick.
What should be done is STOP looking at what we're doing with respect to global warming and look at it with respect to how gross the biospheres that huge portions of our population are living in have become. If we attack our polluting ways to make things better for ourselves, Spaceship Earth will use the regular processes that it's been using for a a hundred billion zillion grillion years to maintain the status quo of the environment.
RBBailey said:
What the fuck does one winter have to do with proving or disproving anything.
Same thing goes for your linkypoo on cambodia. Cycles will still happen, extremes will still happen, but if you think that these little postits help your argument you're dreaming.
watched a whole show on geographic channel, saying that because of GW the poles are supposed to be completely gone by 2070 at the rate they are melting now.. (idk if it will be That soon) but GW is definately real. the polution is destroying much of the environment.. but idk. the earth also finds a way to fix itself, like another ice age or something .. to restablize the environment.
china and india!@? haha, where would we get most of our clothes, made by sweat shops, and our cheap electronics from then!!!
Ask Bush. He says building new nuclear power plants will help control global warming. Apparently he believes it's real now.
Jupiter Rover said:
Mark Twain on extrapolation
One of the Mississippi's oddest peculiarities is that of shortening its length from time to time. If you will throw a long, pliant apple-paring over your shoulder, it will pretty fairly shape itself into an average section of the Mississippi River; that is, the nine or ten hundred miles stretching from Cairo, Illinois, southward to New Orleans, the same being wonderfully crooked, with a brief straight bit here and there at wide intervals. The two-hundred-mile stretch from Cairo northward to St. Louis is by no means so crooked, that being a rocky country which the river cannot cut much.
The water cuts the alluvial banks of the `lower' river into deep horseshoe curves; so deep, indeed, that in some places if you were to get ashore at one extremity of the horseshoe and walk across the neck, half or three quarters of a mile, you could sit down and rest a couple of hours while your steamer was coming around the long elbow, at a speed of ten miles an hour, to take you aboard again. When the river is rising fast, some scoundrel whose plantation is back in the country, and therefore of inferior value, has only to watch his chance, cut a little gutter across the narrow neck of land some dark night, and turn the water into it, and in a wonderfully short time a miracle has happened: to wit, the whole Mississippi has taken possession of that little ditch, and placed the countryman's plantation on its bank.
Pray observe some of the effects of this ditching business. The Mississippi between Cairo and New Orleans was twelve hundred and fifteen miles long one hundred and seventy-six years ago. It was eleven hundred and eighty after the cut-off of 1722. It was one thousand and forty after the American Bend cut-off. It has lost sixty-seven miles since. Consequently its length is only nine hundred and seventy-three miles at present.
Now, if I wanted to be one of those ponderous scientific people, and `let on' to prove what had occurred in the remote past by what had occurred in a given time in the recent past, or what will occur in the far future by what has occurred in late years, what an opportunity is here! Geology never had such a chance, nor such exact data to argue from! Nor `development of species', either! Glacial epochs are great things, but they are vague--vague. Please observe. In the space of one hundred and seventy-six years the Lower Mississippi has shortened itself two hundred and forty-two miles. This is an average of a trifle over one mile and a third per year. Therefore, any calm person, who is not blind or idiotic, can see that in the Old Oolitic Silurian Period, just a million years ago next November, the Lower Mississippi River was upward of one million three hundred thousand miles long, and stuck out over the Gulf of Mexico like a fishing-rod. And by the same token any person can see that seven hundred and forty-two years from now the Lower Mississippi will be only a mile and three-quarters long, and Cairo and New Orleans will have joined their streets together, and be plodding comfortably along under a single mayor and a mutual board of aldermen.
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain, Life on the Mississippi 173-6 (1883)
The water cuts the alluvial banks of the `lower' river into deep horseshoe curves; so deep, indeed, that in some places if you were to get ashore at one extremity of the horseshoe and walk across the neck, half or three quarters of a mile, you could sit down and rest a couple of hours while your steamer was coming around the long elbow, at a speed of ten miles an hour, to take you aboard again. When the river is rising fast, some scoundrel whose plantation is back in the country, and therefore of inferior value, has only to watch his chance, cut a little gutter across the narrow neck of land some dark night, and turn the water into it, and in a wonderfully short time a miracle has happened: to wit, the whole Mississippi has taken possession of that little ditch, and placed the countryman's plantation on its bank.
Pray observe some of the effects of this ditching business. The Mississippi between Cairo and New Orleans was twelve hundred and fifteen miles long one hundred and seventy-six years ago. It was eleven hundred and eighty after the cut-off of 1722. It was one thousand and forty after the American Bend cut-off. It has lost sixty-seven miles since. Consequently its length is only nine hundred and seventy-three miles at present.
Now, if I wanted to be one of those ponderous scientific people, and `let on' to prove what had occurred in the remote past by what had occurred in a given time in the recent past, or what will occur in the far future by what has occurred in late years, what an opportunity is here! Geology never had such a chance, nor such exact data to argue from! Nor `development of species', either! Glacial epochs are great things, but they are vague--vague. Please observe. In the space of one hundred and seventy-six years the Lower Mississippi has shortened itself two hundred and forty-two miles. This is an average of a trifle over one mile and a third per year. Therefore, any calm person, who is not blind or idiotic, can see that in the Old Oolitic Silurian Period, just a million years ago next November, the Lower Mississippi River was upward of one million three hundred thousand miles long, and stuck out over the Gulf of Mexico like a fishing-rod. And by the same token any person can see that seven hundred and forty-two years from now the Lower Mississippi will be only a mile and three-quarters long, and Cairo and New Orleans will have joined their streets together, and be plodding comfortably along under a single mayor and a mutual board of aldermen.
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain, Life on the Mississippi 173-6 (1883)
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When I went to Sweden at the end of December it was 40 degrees out. Everyone said it felt like spring to them
Global Warming? That is so last year. Now it's Global Climate Change (because there is not general concencious among the scientists that things are getting warmer)
you must not read Discover mag, or watch any discovery channel, or the news for that matter, very much... since it is a sure thing the polls are melting.. there was a big thing a couple months ago about Polar bears are dying off, because all the ice is melting and breaking apart.. the bears have no choice but to swim.. and they can only swim for so long. global warming Is not last year.. i think just your info is.. lol.nwoods said:
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The last ice age melted before industrialization. Why?
--Point here is that there is something at play beyond human interference.
How many harmful pollutents are expelled in an average volcanic eruption? (we're gonna need one big catalytic converter!)
--Point here being that we (general public) focus on car tail pipes way too much. There are way worse sorces of pollution than today's cars.
Just some thoughts... argue on.
--Point here is that there is something at play beyond human interference.
How many harmful pollutents are expelled in an average volcanic eruption? (we're gonna need one big catalytic converter!)
--Point here being that we (general public) focus on car tail pipes way too much. There are way worse sorces of pollution than today's cars.
Just some thoughts... argue on.
bri said:
The Weather Channel raised the political aspect by calling for the decertification of any AMS certified weather person if they questioned human caused global warming.
How totalitarian of them.
Personally I think the Weather Channel just nuked their revenue plans.
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