Why I'm Voting For...

[SDD2]

How about this. How about we compile a list of all the things we see wrong with America so we can actually match the things we think Obama will fix. Ready. Set. Go!

Let's start with what you see as wrong with America ... and what casued them ...

And Fabianism going on right now ... under the Bush/Cheney administration? Examples please ...

 

[RBBailey]

Here is a small list:

1. Erosion of the freedom of speech as evidenced by people actually thinking up ideas like the Fairness Doctrine.
2. Erosion of our rights to bear arms -- do I need to show evidence?
3. Erosion of our freedom of religion as evidenced by the push to regulate what is said in churches, and by statements from the Left about how Canada and the U.K. are handling Biblical text, and the people speaking it, that they don't like.
4. Erosion of our ability to participate in our government -- the party system is out of control, they exist for the purpose of existing -- meaning that they are in it for power, not service. No limits on Congressional terms in office.
5. Money in politics.
6. Privatizing the military.
7. A legislature that passes law after law after law after law....
8. A destruction of what it means to be "American".
9. Severe sexual and violent crimes going unpunished with unlimited appeals defended by lawyers who care more about the criminal than the victim.
10. A government that is out of control on it's spending.
11. A government that is actually starting to tell us we cannot smoke in our own homes.

Now, lets see...

1. Liberal idea -- Obama won't fix this.
2. Liberal idea -- Obama won't fix this.
3. Liberal idea -- Obama won't fix this.
4. Politicians in general -- Obama won't fix this.
5. Politicians in general -- Obama won't fix this.
6. Perpetuated by the Neo-cons (Bush) which is NOT a conservative way of thinking -- Obama won't fix this.
7. Liberal idea -- perpetuated by all politicians -- Obama won't fix this.
8. Liberal idea -- Obama won't fix this.
9. Liberal idea -- Obama won't fix this.
10. Liberal idea/perpetuated by all politicians, Neo-Cons, Bush -- NOT Conservatives -- Obama won't fix this.
11. Liberal idea -- Obama won't fix this.

 

[RBBailey]

Seriously, J., you are making it worse. Are you joking now? Who are you supporting, really? If it is Obama, why can't you make an argument for him?

 

[MarkP]

Seriously, J., you are making it worse. Are you joking now? Who are you supporting, really? If it is Obama, why can't you make an argument for him?

I asked for concrete reasons months ago. The silence is deafening.

 

[J. Toronado]

because i dont want to make an argument for him to a couple of guys who think the socialist's republic of obama is coming to kill them. i dont argue with my mother or postal employees either. just a rule i have.

edit: bailey you got way too much time on your hands. grab a cold one, kick back and get it on w obama and invesco tonight. let your hair down.

 

[cptyarderho]

the sky is falling...

from the Dems and the Reps. Give me a break, what is broken is that old record.

The Constitution is not in danger, except to the few who think they get to decide what it meant. Does it get banged around, sure.


Whoever wins, there will not be a great deal of change. It is the nature of the system. Wadding your political panties does not undo the problem.

Ask yourself how you can be part of a solution (besides voting)

 

[Mike_Rupp]

The Constitution is not in danger, except to the few who think they get to decide what it meant. Does it get banged around, sure.


Whoever wins, there will not be a great deal of change.

You've got to be kidding. Did you happen to pay attention to the recent gun control case: DC v. Heller? It was a 5-4 vote. Yeah, that's right. All it would have taken is on different judge on the bench for our second amendment right to be tossed out of the window. Had Gore / Kerry been elected, we'd have another Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the bench.

 

[cptyarderho]

one ruling is not forever, and the document does not explode when SCOTUS rules.

I think they ruled correctly, but had they not your world would not fly off into oblivion. They may change it someday, okay. I am not convinced that private gun ownership has prevented any political revolution here. I have a few myself, but I am not worried.

 

[mastercamper]

"The constitution say's what the supreme court say's it say's."

Coach Jack Bragg
Unicoi County High School
1993

 

[J. Toronado]

"You've got to be kidding. Did you happen to pay attention to the recent gun control case: DC v. Heller? It was a 5-4 vote. Yeah, that's right. All it would have taken is on different judge on the bench for our second amendment right to be tossed out of the window. Had Gore / Kerry been elected, we'd have another Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the bench."

....and that's why they have an appeals court. these things go back and forth all the time depending on who's in office, media portrayal of crime statistics, etc. its not rocket science.

 

[Finn]

The truth about Obama:

http://bestobamafacts.com/

Well worth reading!

 

[scottagnew101]

...McCain, not Obama.......

Because WHAT THE HELL HAS OBAMA ACCOMPLISHED!?!?!

/End

Scott

 

[mastercamper]

Did gun crimes go down after the Clinton gun ban???
Will it go down after guns are outlawed??



I'm voting for Ted Nugent

 

[DIIdude]

"You've got to be kidding. Did you happen to pay attention to the recent gun control case: DC v. Heller? It was a 5-4 vote. Yeah, that's right. All it would have taken is on different judge on the bench for our second amendment right to be tossed out of the window. Had Gore / Kerry been elected, we'd have another Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the bench."

....and that's why they have an appeals court. these things go back and forth all the time depending on who's in office, media portrayal of crime statistics, etc. its not rocket science.

OK, so it's been a long time since I've been in school, but exactly what "appeals" court does it go to after the Supreme Court?

 

[RBBailey]

....and that's why they have an appeals court. these things go back and forth all the time depending on who's in office, media portrayal of crime statistics, etc. its not rocket science.

Then why is it getting progressively worse?

If it's not a big deal, if Obama, McCain, whatever, isn't going to make it worse, then it isn't going to make it better either... so why vote? Why are you so excited to watch something that won't matter?

Let me ask the questions one at a time:

1. Is universal health care an ideal that fits, or does not fit with the Constitution? In your answer, identify what wing of which political party is in support of this program, and show where in the Constitution you find support for your answer.

(Although I would never ask a loaded question like this to my class, this is an 8th grade level, short essay question of the type I write for my students, so I'm sure you are up to it.)

 

[D90DC]

Hope is a non action word... Gee I'm poor I hope i win the lottery....

Face value and common sense should be enough to see through this con man.... LOL watching the Democrats, you poor fools only believe what you hear not the actual truth.... I love it when Sharpton embraces Obama... Sharpton is one of the biggest con men in New York

Id rather elect the biggest crook in the Senate.... Teddy Kennedy at least you know he has been great at being a Scumbag thief... Too bad he wont run id kind of like to see another state funeral... Oh that bad even for me....

Oh dont get me wrong McCain is just as big a Dusche Bag

 

[J. Toronado]

OK, so it's been a long time since I've been in school, but exactly what "appeals" court does it go to after the Supreme Court?

The American public. Who will determine the next Prez who in turn will nominate SC justices to their liking who can overturn a previous ruling. Or they can also nominate their own personal attorneys

See how this whole checks and balances thing works? Amazing.

 

[DIIdude]

The American public. Who will determine the next Prez who in turn will nominate SC justices to their liking who can overturn a previous ruling. Or they can also nominate their own personal attorneys

See how this whole checks and balances thing works? Amazing.

Anyway, I wouldn't be so sure that Obama is a shoe in. This is the ugly truth that nobody wants to admit. This is why the poll numbers are so close when everything points to a Democratic landslide.

Remember, I'm only the messenger.

As heard from an ardent lifelong democrat in this area, "There's no way I'm voting for a god damn "blank"".

 

[RBBailey]

The American public. Who will determine the next Prez who in turn will nominate SC justices to their liking who can overturn a previous ruling. Or they can also nominate their own personal attorneys

Which takes us back to one of my earlier points, and thus, the problem:

We loose our control over our government in direct relation to how few people are interested in serving that government.

The main point you keep avoiding is the fact that Obama's political philosophy is in direct opposition to how this country was founded. If you support Obama, you support a tearing down of the system of Government you claim to be so strong that it will simply ride out the storm. EVERYONE knows this who has studied our system of government in an honest and unbiased way -- the system breaks when the people who run it get selfish. The system breaks when the people stop participating (check voting rates lately) because we are the system. The system can be torn down from within by simply changing it into something else.

Obama would not even have been elected to Congress if people were paying attention to this fact.

You keep saying I'm just making it up when I say Obama is not a Socialist -- prove it. Obama's own voting record, his history has proven my point. I would like to see evidence to the contrary, evidence to show that he does not want to change America.

(By the way, I watched a few minutes of his speech tonight... all he talked about was Bush -- Bush isn't running! No matter how much you try, McCain is not Bush -- you just can't squish them together enough to make that true.)

 

[Leslie]

I've tried to stay out on the fringe of politics here thus far.....


But, I watched Obama's speech tonight, and objectively listened. I can now honestly say, I cannot vote for Obama based solely on what he personally said he wants to accomplish. Period. He personally sold me on *not* voting for him.