winch talk

ERover82

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It's not complicated. Superwinch's old EP line is identical to Comeup's DV series and Viking's GS-9. Comeup is a manufacturer who had a traditional distribution chain but now is going direct to market. The relationship is obvious.
 
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It's not complicated. Superwinch's old EP line is identical to Comeup's DV series and Viking's GS-9. Comeup is a manufacturer who had a traditional distribution chain but now is going direct to market.

It's more complicated than you think.

A motor is a motor is a motor, right? All motors are created equal, right? There is no difference between an $8 motor and a $80 motor. Or is there?

There is no difference between a bushing and a bearing.

There is no difference between copper and silver tungsten contacts.

What you're saying is a Tabor or VR or Magmun is the same as a Warn winch because it looks the same physically. It's not. Those are cheap piece of shit winches, just like your Chinese winch. Those winches rank right up there with TMax and Mile Marker electric (not mile marker hydro). They'll work for a few years and then crap out with no warning.

I remember this very conversation years ago here in Dweb when TMax was coming out. People swore by TMax winches. Steve Young defended TMax until he was blue in the face. Is there any wonder why we don't see TMax any longer on the trails yet we still have Husky 10's, Bellview's, and 40-year old Warn winches still kickin? You're right, it's not complicated.
 

Nomar

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ha ha

That hammer makes it look tough! Or tuff!

I did go with that pos MM8000 on my Hunter and I only used it once until this year---it sucks.


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jhmover

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Talk about the Chinese copying shit. Here's the new Land Wind.

Regarding cheap fuck winches. I bought a Mile Marker like a dumbass as few years ago. I did do a couple of good pulls getting stuck Rover's out but then it just died.

I just stuck a Warn M8000 on the 98. No more Chinese or Taiwan for me.
 

Mike_Rupp

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It's funny how far things have come since Dweb started. In the beginning, the argument was whether or not US made planetary winches sucked. Now it's about Chinese made winches and the US made planetary winches are the benchmark.
 

p m

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All this talk about "my winch will pull all day long" makes me wonder how many people pay attention to their alternators.
I found that mud immersion - rather, a few of splashes a year - shortens the life of brushes to about three years. The truck starts, runs, everything is kosher ... until it is not.
And without one, the battery's good for about 10 minutes.

... of course, that comes from someone who's only used his winch for all of 20 seconds or so.
 

p m

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All winches are equal, though.
I never said that. But my canadian thing pulls 450A at full load, which puts it at 7.333 minutes off a fresh 34-78 battery. Granted, full load almost never happens, but I think even idle current is close to a hundred.
And I slapped a brand new P38A alternator on my truck 3 years ago, and found my (also young) battery at 12.1V, 13.1V with engine running at 1500 rpm. When I took it apart, I found that the brushes were mostly gone. Resurrected two others I thought were dead - they weren't, just brushes barely sticking up.