From P.M. "I'd have simply stopped. By the time I made my decision, the guy on the hog had no chance of avoiding the collision. "
Jamming on the breaks is only a good decision if it results in no collision.
WTF is it with the motorcyclists?
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From P.M. "I'd have simply stopped. By the time I made my decision, the guy on the hog had no chance of avoiding the collision. "
Jamming on the breaks is only a good decision if it results in no collision.
At least I can rest better that your chances of living your commute are better.
You might be right, but my wife as seen plenty of bikers through truck windows. One of the reasons, I no longer have a bike.
Even if not, you are doing 45 and so is biker. It would be better to avoid the accident.... I think.
Agreed....it would be a much different situation if it were actually happening to me. I would still be incredibly pissed if a biker tried to play chicken with me.
Peter, I feel for you. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't some sort of game being played on you. I also wouldn't be surprised of the two rides had elevated BAC's. Motorcycles and more than a few of their drivers scare the shit out of me. I hate HD's that hug the center line or, like you mentioned, ride two abreast in a lane. I've had more than a few pass in absolutely unsafe situations and it infuriates be. I seldom see motorcyclists exercising anything remotely resembling road ediquette. Why, take is so personally?
My Range Rover took the leg off a motorcyclist once. Severed it right below the knee. Blood was gushing like a fountain from his femural artery. He was on a '78 HD Lowrider, looked away, swerved into my lane and hit me right on the left headlight. He ultimately survived thanks to a paramedic who lived in right where this accident took place. She was able to stop/slow the bleeding until the ambulance arrived. It turned out his BAC was above .30. Thankfully, I was ok.
That accident occurred back in '94.
Less than a half mile from the scene, in '89 I had the same thing happen with the exception that I was travelling in the opposite direction. A '79 HD FLH, fully dressed, crossed over the double yellow and slammed into my '88 Pathfinder at my left headlight. The motorcyclist was not wearing a helmet, was tossed into my windshield and slid off onto the ground. My front wheel was completely destroyed and I swerved into the oncoming traffic. I hit and turned sideways the car following the motorcycle. That car was filled with the motorcyclist's friends. Rather than attend to their friend they spend the initial minutes after impact hiding all the beer, whisky and cocaine they were travelling with. Yup, the motorcyclist had a BAC of .26. He survived, minus a leg. I had minor injuries but was forced to go through years of litigatory hell. Ambulance chasers served me with an intent to sue with days of the accident. In the end they got nothing.
They have a joke about the town I live in here in CT. New Milford, lots of winding roads and lots of bars. Every weekend the area is flooded with motorcyclists from all over the region. There used to have an enormous biker jamboree a few miles to the south in Danbury. It took place in spring and fall. In fact, my accident that occurred in '94 was on the day of the spring jamboree and my motorcyclist was just extending the celebration shortly before running into my truck.
Sorry all you motorcyclists but I will never feel safe again about your presence on the road. I cringe when I see a motorcycle heading towards me hugging the center line. When somebody on a rice rocket illegally passes me and blows off at 100 mph I hang back waiting in anticipation of sirens and an accident scene. It's an all too common occurrence here in NW CT and alcohol plays way too large a role in these accidents.
My Range Rover took the leg off a motorcyclist once. Severed it right below the knee. Blood was gushing like a fountain from his femural artery. He was on a '78 HD Lowrider, looked away, swerved into my lane and hit me right on the left headlight. He ultimately survived thanks to a paramedic who lived in right where this accident took place. She was able to stop/slow the bleeding until the ambulance arrived. It turned out his BAC was above .30. Thankfully, I was ok.
That accident occurred back in '94.
Less than a half mile from the scene, in '89 I had the same thing happen with the exception that I was travelling in the opposite direction. A '79 HD FLH, fully dressed, crossed over the double yellow and slammed into my '88 Pathfinder at my left headlight. The motorcyclist was not wearing a helmet, was tossed into my windshield and slid off onto the ground. My front wheel was completely destroyed and I swerved into the oncoming traffic. I hit and turned sideways the car following the motorcycle. That car was filled with the motorcyclist's friends. Rather than attend to their friend they spend the initial minutes after impact hiding all the beer, whisky and cocaine they were travelling with. Yup, the motorcyclist had a BAC of .26. He survived, minus a leg. I had minor injuries but was forced to go through years of litigatory hell. Ambulance chasers served me with an intent to sue with days of the accident. In the end they got nothing.
They have a joke about the town I live in here in CT. New Milford, lots of winding roads and lots of bars. Every weekend the area is flooded with motorcyclists from all over the region. There used to have an enormous biker jamboree a few miles to the south in Danbury. It took place in spring and fall. In fact, my accident that occurred in '94 was on the day of the spring jamboree and my motorcyclist was just extending the celebration shortly before running into my truck.
Sorry all you motorcyclists but I will never feel safe again about your presence on the road. I cringe when I see a motorcycle heading towards me hugging the center line. When somebody on a rice rocket illegally passes me and blows off at 100 mph I hang back waiting in anticipation of sirens and an accident scene. It's an all too common occurrence here in NW CT and alcohol plays way too large a role in these accidents.
The system was automatically analyzed and tracked, and at least two probable timelines were considered in PM's mind quickly enough to avoid any heightened function and pretty much ignore the entire event immediately after it occurred.
That's all that matters to me.
I don't care who falls off a cliff or how people ride a bike. That's not interesting.
I like to hear stories about people who have a brain that works properly. Ten points for the speed of his CPU, situational awareness, and programming.
Cheers,
Kennith
That's all that matters to me.
I don't care who falls off a cliff or how people ride a bike. That's not interesting.
I like to hear stories about people who have a brain that works properly. Ten points for the speed of his CPU, situational awareness, and programming.
Cheers,
Kennith
Interesting that whatever seconds took to make a decision were spent fighting with long-term trained-in desire to hang to my side and slow down/stop. And that, remarkably, is exactly what the biker wanted me to do.
I had enough time to think of whether the biker's body would fly through the windshield - and I thought so - and which side should I duck to to avoid getting hit by the body, glass, and airbag. When I figured that there was no easy way for me to walk from the accident, then I pulled towards the middle.
Stupid shit, I still can't get it out of my head. I don't think I've been this close to a fatal accident in my life.
I had enough time to think of whether the biker's body would fly through the windshield - and I thought so - and which side should I duck to to avoid getting hit by the body, glass, and airbag. When I figured that there was no easy way for me to walk from the accident, then I pulled towards the middle.
Stupid shit, I still can't get it out of my head. I don't think I've been this close to a fatal accident in my life.
After the event should you have called the authorities ? That is really fucked up. Like someone stated earlier, a different driver, a different not so pretty outcome.
Fuck that. None of what's been said about motorcyclist already is the problem. Just look at who's riding these days.
Remember when motorcycles were cool? I'm not talking about the Honda Shadow, I'm talking cool choppers. Where the fuck have the cool choppers went? Today's chopper is a Triumph with a fucking Cafe Racer tail on it. What kind of pussy rides a bike like this?
Remember when motorcycles were cool? I'm not talking about the Honda Shadow, I'm talking cool choppers. Where the fuck have the cool choppers went? Today's chopper is a Triumph with a fucking Cafe Racer tail on it. What kind of pussy rides a bike like this?
JHK - no, I didn't bother calling anybody. The cops would just shrug it off. And I hope the stoned dude on that bike has enough brain cells not to pull that trick on a minivan full of local kindergarten soccer stars.
Matt - body through the windshield is a speculation all right. My guess about that was in an assumption of a head-on collision - which would lift the body of the bike and throw the rider up in the air. He could've put the bike on the side and get wiped under - in which case it would have been a "Black Dog" "What was it? A Mazda" moment.
Matt - body through the windshield is a speculation all right. My guess about that was in an assumption of a head-on collision - which would lift the body of the bike and throw the rider up in the air. He could've put the bike on the side and get wiped under - in which case it would have been a "Black Dog" "What was it? A Mazda" moment.
Not sure how a Rover would fair in a head-on...but I've seen how a Corvette handles the situation
Corvette vs Motorcycle at Deals Gap
Corvette vs Motorcycle at Deals Gap
That Corvette/bike had the closing speed of about 30 mph. I was talking about something like 80-90. There's no doubt the Disco would be totalled in a head-on collision.
