X-brake group buy #2
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Yeah I don't really understand this mod because brake shoes and drum have a much greater static holding force than does a caliper and disk. Isn't static holding what a tcase drum brake is for?
flyfisher11 said:
You are correct. A big problem we see at the shop is that almost nobody actually services the drum brake. We always service them during the 30k service. My stock parking brake holds the truck very well. Personally I see the x brake as a downgrade more so than an upgrade.
And if you bash the thing on a rock, you can just unbolt it and keep going. Replacements are dirt cheap. The x-brake may have benefits but it is worth nowhere near $400. I am also pretty sure that it would be cheaper for someone to develop a kit using a basic bracket and cheap, readily available domestic brake parts- but who cares.
The only advantage I see is running in deep mud where the drum can get filled and have issues. But 99% of the time I'd rather have the static capacity as well as very rugged nature of the unit. The disk will easily get tweaked if something hits it where the stock drum is very rugged.
For toyotas/jeeps etc that these disks started out for - they had no case mounted brake so these are a great upgrade. For us I don't see the advantage? Maybe there is one?
For toyotas/jeeps etc that these disks started out for - they had no case mounted brake so these are a great upgrade. For us I don't see the advantage? Maybe there is one?
Well, it's a new idea, and at least someone put it to production. I'm all for innovation, as even the silliest of concepts bring about even more new ideas. I can see the thought behind it, but I also consider it a bit of why-tech.
That's not my biggest issue with the thing, though. It's not sensibly made. It isn't going to be used very often, and it's not going to see much heat abuse. Why the hell isn't it made of stainless steel? I can think of no reason why it shouldn't be.
Doesn't make a lick of sense to me, personally.
Cheers,
Kennith
That's not my biggest issue with the thing, though. It's not sensibly made. It isn't going to be used very often, and it's not going to see much heat abuse. Why the hell isn't it made of stainless steel? I can think of no reason why it shouldn't be.
Doesn't make a lick of sense to me, personally.
Cheers,
Kennith
^i think the x brake has been around for a bit. like you i am all for new ideas as well, but this isn't the 'area' I'm looking for something new.
i just don't like the idea of a disc and caliper design as a parking brake. it doesn't take much water getting in the cable sheath to start the swelling and seizing process. there is less surface area in contact regarding the pad to disc, and even though there is a guard for the disc, I'm sure the right rock will turn that guard into an additional brake pad.
if you service the stock drum once a year i don't see why you would need the x-brake.
i just don't like the idea of a disc and caliper design as a parking brake. it doesn't take much water getting in the cable sheath to start the swelling and seizing process. there is less surface area in contact regarding the pad to disc, and even though there is a guard for the disc, I'm sure the right rock will turn that guard into an additional brake pad.
if you service the stock drum once a year i don't see why you would need the x-brake.
Big jeeps had Dana 18 transfer case with a parking brake. I was looking for one to replace a Dana 20 on my Wag - since I lost my parking brake after Rover axle conversion. These things are nearly impossible to find anymore - so I was looking for X-brake adaptation.Roving Beetle said:
ptschram
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crown14 said:
Like with maybe a Wilwood caliper, Andy's custom rotors rotor and the stock cable?
No, nobody has every given ANY thought to something like this
Oh yes I have. Been looking at go-kart brake hardware for a while.ptschram said:Like with maybe a Wilwood caliper, Andy's custom rotors rotor and the stock cable?
No, nobody has every given ANY thought to something like this
The drum skids rocks alot better than a disc.... Just saying...
And I can full well lock up all 4 tires if I yank it hard enough...
But if you drive with no rear driveshaft, the little screw will hold the drum for approx 4.3 miles before it detaches and rolls 300 yards down an embankment stopping a few feet from the rivers edge....
And I can full well lock up all 4 tires if I yank it hard enough...
But if you drive with no rear driveshaft, the little screw will hold the drum for approx 4.3 miles before it detaches and rolls 300 yards down an embankment stopping a few feet from the rivers edge....
