iTunes Sucks

Paul Grant

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Let me first say that I have owned Apple gear for over twenty five years. My first Mac was an SE with a 40MB hard drive. My wife and I currently own three iMacs, two iPads, two iPhones, an AppleTV and numerous other Apple products. I have purchased items on iTunes for over a decade.

I have my PayPal debit card on record with Apple for all iTunes purchases. Because the card is linked to my eBay account the balance varies from pennies to thousands of dollars all the time. Payments and charges are coming through at all times of the day and night.

Last night I tried to purchase two television shows on iTunes. The total was $6.08. The purchase was denied because my balance on the debit card at that moment was $5.61. No big deal. I would just make the attempt in an hour as someone was sure to purchase something and my balance would be sufficient. I went back to iTunes to view an older purchase.

Here's where the problem starts. I click on a show I want to watch only to see a screen telling me there was a problem with the last transaction. I was told to go to my desktop to provide iTunes with a new method of payment. In the meanwhile ALL of my media was blocked. We're talking about thousands and thousands of dollars in music, movies, televsion shows, ect. All blocked because of a $6.08 purchase that was declined.

With a short while, as expected, someone had purchased something from my eBay Store and I had more than enough to cover the cost of the two shows. Instead of going to iTunes to reenter my credit/debit card info I went to apple.com to request a telephone call. It was scheduled (really, they schedule phone calls a day or two in advance) for this afternoon. In the meanwhile, the app store on my brand new iMac was indicating there were updates to my iPhoto and iMovie. I couldn't even download FREE updates to apps that came free with the new computer.

This afternoon I spoke with the representative who directed me to this paragraph in the Terms and Conditions for iTunes use.

"Notwithstanding any other provision of this Agreement, Apple and its licensors reserve the right to change, suspend, remove, or disable access to any iTunes Products, content, or other materials comprising a part of the iTunes Service at any time without notice. In no event will Apple be liable for making these changes. Apple may also impose limits on the use of or access to certain features or portions of the iTunes Service, in any case and without notice or liability."

So, in essence, Apple denied me access to the thousands of dollars of media I purchased because of one failed transaction. This, I was informed, was there policy.

I understand that Apple reserves the right to change, suspend, remove or disable access to iTunes Products by why such an extreme act in this instance? It's not like I got anything for free. The purchase failed. End of story. There was no money due to Apple for any of the previous purchases forcing them to block access. This action on their part, was overkill.

As a result, I will be moving as much of my activity away from Apple and their products as quickly as I can. Please share my story with others who may be under the illusion that the have any rights when it comes to iTunes Products. Today's Apple is not the same company it was just a few years ago. Frankly, I hope Tim Cook chokes on the 150 billion the company has stashed in offshore accounts.
 

Mike_Rupp

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I buy about 90% of my digital purchases on AMZN. The other day I rented a movie and because of my piece of shit "smart" TV, I had horrible streaming. It would freeze and start up again. A few days later I received an email from AMZN saying that they noticed that I had a problem watching the movie and credited me back the price.

I like apple as well (my first apple product was a Apple 2e back in the mid 80s), but they are not a customer focused company anymore. The first real glimpse into this was when they had DRM on their audio files on iTunes.
 

ArmyRover

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That is a load of shit you paid for all the other stuff you should not be unable to view it. This just reinforces my love of Android :D
 

garrett

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I've never understood the fascination with Apple products.

I too purchase all my digital downloads via Amazon. iTunes requires you to purchase albums in many cases whereas Amazon allows you to download individual songs. That in itself is far less annoying.

An iPhone, scarf, liberal arts degree and tight jeans won't make you cool - oh I mean "deck". You're still a D bag peddling your fixed gear to your part-time job at Urban Outfitters.
 

brian4d

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I keep my music and shows off the cloud, but I don't have a lot of either. They can't block what they don't have access to. Can't believe they did this to you. My guess would be a valid CC on file is the same as a good credit score. Makes sense until your card expires and all of a sudden you're the bad guy. Fuck them.
 

Some Dude

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This is why I don't buy digital media.

This just reinforces my love of Android :D
I bought a Galaxy S4 two weeks ago. I really wanted to like it. It was slick and fast and cool, and I was about to ditch both my old dying iphone 4S and my ipad and just use the GS4 for everything. In the end, it caused me more headaches in the 10 days that I owned it than it possibly could have been worth. I took it back and slapped the sim back in my defunct i-device. Never been happier.
 

kennith

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That really sucks. As for digital stuff, I usually pick it up on Amazon. They made it very easy to push the "buy this episode for $1.99 button. :banghead:

I just buy a CD for music most of the time, though I have downloaded a few things from iTunes.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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This is why I don't buy digital media.


I bought a Galaxy S4 two weeks ago. I really wanted to like it. It was slick and fast and cool, and I was about to ditch both my old dying iphone 4S and my ipad and just use the GS4 for everything. In the end, it caused me more headaches in the 10 days that I owned it than it possibly could have been worth. I took it back and slapped the sim back in my defunct i-device. Never been happier.

I finally bought a smart phone because everybody expects you to have one nowadays, and when it gets to that point, you just can't keep up with requests until you move on. I no longer have to try to convince people that my phone doesn't receive pictures and e-mails. They just thought I was too stupid to figure it out.:rofl:

I picked up a Windows 8 model, and I rather like it.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Paul Grant

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I guess what it comes down to for me is that I can't understand how a company could possibly think this was a good way to treat a customer. I was in Staples today buying paper. I used my debit card and all I could think was, is there something in Staples Terms and Conditions of Sale that would allow them to follow me home and take my printer, cartridges, paper, ect if my debit card had been declined? Afterall, I had bought (or thought I had) those items at Staples.
 

bri

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This is why I don't buy digital media.


I bought a Galaxy S4 two weeks ago. I really wanted to like it. It was slick and fast and cool, and I was about to ditch both my old dying iphone 4S and my ipad and just use the GS4 for everything. In the end, it caused me more headaches in the 10 days that I owned it than it possibly could have been worth. I took it back and slapped the sim back in my defunct i-device. Never been happier.

I had to do the exact opposite for work. s4 to I-sucks. so glad I didn't have to keep the I-phone, blackberry is better. the iphone is so....last year and I agree with kennith the windows phones are nice. you'd have to point exactly why your iphone is better to even begin to convince me.
 

bri

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I guess what it comes down to for me is that I can't understand how a company could possibly think this was a good way to treat a customer. I was in Staples today buying paper. I used my debit card and all I could think was, is there something in Staples Terms and Conditions of Sale that would allow them to follow me home and take my printer, cartridges, paper, ect if my debit card had been declined? Afterall, I had bought (or thought I had) those items at Staples.

its the philosophy of a proprietary platform company.
 

slangel

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That really sucks. We have basically Apple everything, 100% of our youngest son's speech and learning programs are for I-pad only. That said, I think I have bought one thing from I-tunes over the years....mainly because Chris von is shady and we never pay for anything. :D
 

mike97d1

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its the philosophy of a proprietary platform company.

Proprietary platform should be about selling additional product that the company makes, not about shutting you out of everything they tricked you into, over a minor issue. I think that All the latest phones and stuff are all great, and all do way more than the average person needs. However, it seems like Apple has brainwashed the public into think that they are the greatest and everything else sucks. Sure, they have some great stuff, but their level of "proprietary platform" is crazy. I guess kudos to them for amazing marketing, but shame on the general public for going for it so easily.