iTunes Sucks

[DiscoPhoto]

Apple has you exactly where they want you.

Not that intuitive. On mobile phones, iOS seemed the most different of the 4. But I don't have that much experience with windows mobile and the latest phones.

IMO, the reason you think iOS is so intuitive is because you are used to it. I don't think that it is any more intuitive than droid.

Ehh, I'd have to disagree. I ran an HTC phone for a while, also a droid X in between iPhones. The iPhone is simply too easy to use. Every mom and there pet shih-tzu are using iPads with ease, Apple just continues to create an amazing simple & effective UI.

IMO Apple keeps it real, doesn't pack phones with unnecessary features, but yes, sometimes does leave some essentials like open source out.

I was at lunch the other day and saw a friend I hadn't seen in a while. While exchanging numbers I kinda got a WTF face. He has the galaxy note3. I'm not sure if you all have seen that phone, but it's literally as tall as a pint glass.

It's funny what other companies are doing, because no matter what they're doing they'll likely never have a more singularly powerful phone than Apple does. Sure, Droid can/will/has probably overshadowed the iPhone, but that is only with their mass amounts of different phones. Apple has done what they've done with 1 phone every year(this year 2).

 

[bri]

I don't dislike the company. I've given them a chance.

What is annoying to me is that there seems to be a lot of people that make claims that apple products are so much better because of its ease of use.

I don't believe this is true for iPhone or ipad. From some of the posts keeping tuhe iPhone was due to lack of ability to learn new system.

 

[DiscoPhoto]

It's not just the ease of use, they have the fastest phone on the market right now.

 

[bri]

Ehh, I'd have to disagree. I ran an HTC phone for a while, also a droid X in between iPhones. The iPhone is simply too easy to use. Every mom and there pet shih-tzu are using iPads with ease, Apple just continues to create an amazing simple & effective UI.

Although i doubt that you meant this i believe that it is accurate that iphone is too easy to use.

Apples ui on iphone seemed pretty unimpressive and dated to me.

 

[Some Dude]

From some of the posts keeping tuhe iPhone was due to lack of ability to learn new system.

Hahaha. OK. I work in IT administration. My network supports Windows and OSX. I run 4 different server architectures, multiple routing protocols, and SIP/VoIP across multiple locations in my state. I support every possible flavor of smart phone on the market and all the lunacy that comes with trying to make windows phone, BB, android, and iphone sync everything perfectly with multiple desktop OSs and servers.

But I must lack the "ability to learn a new system."

No. I spend my entire day making technology work and solving people's problems. When I pick up my own phone I don't want to fuck with it - I just want it to work as simply as humanly possible and iOS excels at cutting the crap and just working.

 

[Mike_Rupp]

Although i doubt that you meant this i believe that it is accurate that iphone is too easy to use.

Apples ui on iphone seemed pretty unimpressive and dated to me.

Ok, I'll bite. If the iphone is unimpressive and dated, tell me specifically what your phone does that makes it impressive and current.

I bought the iphone when the 3gs model came out. I had an iMac already and figured what the hell. It does everything I want.

Here's a quick list of things that are really easy to do on my phone (iPhone5):

take easy pics and post them up to FB
have my music library easy accessible
have my contacts and calendar sync without any action on my part
act as a backup GPS when my Audi's GPS acts like an idiot
has the mobile version of Numbers, so I can use my spreadsheet program away from my desk and it syncs without any action on my part

has an app that I can use to turn on my alarm system if I forget to when I leave my house
has a pdf reader so I can have important docs on my phone to refer to when I need to

The only thing that I've felt like I was hampered by Apple's controlling policies was when I was considering getting a bluetooth OBD2 reader to use on my phone. I guess Apple has kind of neutered the bluetooth capabilities and the Droid's isn't.

Again, please tell me what I'm missing out with a Droid or whatever phone is the greatest. My only experience was a friend of mine who leads a tech team and bought a Droid and got rid of it after a week because he hated it.

 

[mike97d1]

It's not just the ease of use, they have the fastest phone on the market right now.

I disagree, my bosses Galaxy S4 (he was a diehard iPhone guy) and my wife's BB Z10 are just as fast as iPhone. I'm sure network quality is a factor as well. I'm sure the top end Windows stuff is fast as well.

 

[DiscoPhoto]

I disagree, my bosses Galaxy S4 (he was a diehard iPhone guy) and my wife's BB Z10 are just as fast as iPhone. I'm sure network quality is a factor as well. I'm sure the top end Windows stuff is fast as well.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...artphone-according-to-benchmark-tests_id48469
http://bgr.com/2013/09/19/iphone-5s-benchmarks-performance-tests/
http://www.macworld.com/article/2049270/benchmarks-iphone-5s-lives-up-to-the-hype.html
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/5...hone-suggest-benchmarks-geekbench-iphone5.htm
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424668,00.asp

Facts & benchmark testing prevail over opinion and "specs"

 

[slangel]

I disagree, my bosses Galaxy S4 (he was a diehard iPhone guy) and my wife's BB Z10 are just as fast as iPhone. I'm sure network quality is a factor as well. I'm sure the top end Windows stuff is fast as well.

I cannot agree with the S4 claim, Chris ran his work one side by side with his personal I-phone 5 and the 5 handed the Galaxy its ass. He also works in IT like someone posted above and spends his day making numerous systems, networks, and phones, work.....he gave the Galaxy a go and he could not cope with the slowness.

 

[mike97d1]

I cannot agree with the S4 claim, Chris ran his work one side by side with his personal I-phone 5 and the 5 handed the Galaxy its ass. He also works in IT like someone posted above and spends his day making numerous systems, networks, and phones, work.....he gave the Galaxy a go and he could not cope with the slowness.

It is interesting to hear comparisons like this. These are the ones I trust the most. My boss claims that his S4 is faster than his iPhone was (it was a 5, but not S). But he might have just been making himself feel better about the switch. I'm sure the network and what the phone has on it plays into the speed slightly, but probably not a huge deal.

 

[slangel]

It is interesting to hear comparisons like this. These are the ones I trust the most. My boss claims that his S4 is faster than his iPhone was (it was a 5, but not S). But he might have just been making himself feel better about the switch. I'm sure the network and what the phone has on it plays into the speed slightly, but probably not a huge deal.

Yeah, Chris is nitpicky over speeds and everything in this house loads instantaneously. So he did his little nerd routine on both phones, timed it, and I-phone was faster. I also love I can pull up docs and pdfs quickly since I have to do it a lot at our son's bazillion medical and therapy appointments.

 

[mike97d1]

Yeah, Chris is nitpicky over speeds and everything in this house loads instantaneously. So he did his little nerd routine on both phones, timed it, and I-phone was faster. I also love I can pull up docs and pdfs quickly since I have to do it a lot at our son's bazillion medical and therapy appointments.

Reading PDF docs is pretty darn important to me too. I work in the mortgage industry and like to be able to open PDF attachments on emails. The Blackberry has always been good about that for me. Email is the biggest thing for me.

 

[slangel]

Reading PDF docs is pretty darn important to me too. I work in the mortgage industry and like to be able to open PDF attachments on emails. The Blackberry has always been good about that for me. Email is the biggest thing for me.

The last blackberry I had would not, but again, that was back when the first I-phone came out. lol

 

[pinkytoe69]

Are there still upper echelon phones that don't come standard with PDF capability?

 

[ArmyRover]

My galaxy note II does all that and seems more than fast enough for me.

I also like how easy it is to change your android rom out if you want. Need a rom that is faster and eats less memory no problem there is one out there and you can install it in minutes. Want to change the look and layout no problem takes minutes. Want to root it so you can do whatever you want to the OS no problem takes minutes.

I hate ITunes and it drove me far far away from IPhone/Ipod etc. I also like having a big screen on my phone so the Note is a winner in my book.

 

[mike97d1]

My galaxy note II does all that and seems more than fast enough for me.

I also like how easy it is to change your android rom out if you want. Need a rom that is faster and eats less memory no problem there is one out there and you can install it in minutes. Want to change the look and layout no problem takes minutes. Want to root it so you can do whatever you want to the OS no problem takes minutes.

I hate ITunes and it drove me far far away from IPhone/Ipod etc. I also like having a big screen on my phone so the Note is a winner in my book.

My neighbor has a note and he showed me some cool stuff it does, but Holy Crap that thing is big. I guess that is a big selling point for some, but I think its a little big for me.

 

[DiscoPhoto]

My friend just posted this online, no thanks.

 

[slangel]

My galaxy note II does all that and seems more than fast enough for me.

I also like how easy it is to change your android rom out if you want. Need a rom that is faster and eats less memory no problem there is one out there and you can install it in minutes. Want to change the look and layout no problem takes minutes. Want to root it so you can do whatever you want to the OS no problem takes minutes.

I hate ITunes and it drove me far far away from IPhone/Ipod etc. I also like having a big screen on my phone so the Note is a winner in my book.

I have several friends that have them, too big for me. If it doesn't fit in the ass pocket of my jeans, not happening....

 

[bri]

Ok, I'll bite. If the iphone is unimpressive and dated, tell me specifically what your phone does that makes it impressive and current.

I bought the iphone when the 3gs model came out. I had an iMac already and figured what the hell. It does everything I want.

Here's a quick list of things that are really easy to do on my phone (iPhone5):

take easy pics and post them up to FB
have my music library easy accessible
have my contacts and calendar sync without any action on my part
act as a backup GPS when my Audi's GPS acts like an idiot
has the mobile version of Numbers, so I can use my spreadsheet program away from my desk and it syncs without any action on my part

has an app that I can use to turn on my alarm system if I forget to when I leave my house
has a pdf reader so I can have important docs on my phone to refer to when I need to

The only thing that I've felt like I was hampered by Apple's controlling policies was when I was considering getting a bluetooth OBD2 reader to use on my phone. I guess Apple has kind of neutered the bluetooth capabilities and the Droid's isn't.

Again, please tell me what I'm missing out with a Droid or whatever phone is the greatest. My only experience was a friend of mine who leads a tech team and bought a Droid and got rid of it after a week because he hated it.

Really? I do not think that you are missing out on anything. If you have reliable 4G service, good display, camera and music I doubt that moving to Droid is really going to be a life changing event for you. You could get larger display, multiple application windows, full hd screen, dual camera pics, 13MP main camera, quad core processor. On droid, modern UI/OS, universal sharing, haptic feedback, standard interface cables.

All the things you list are easily doable on Droid. You may have to save a Numbers file as Excel or find a numbers app. Likely need something like synctunes as well. I use polaris which came on my phone for word, powerpoint, excel, pdf. All the other stuff is trivial assuming your alarm company has a droid version of the app.

In Apr-May '13, I had an iPhone 5 and my wife an S4. The user interface had many things opposite of the blackberry I had used for 2 years. The interface is enough different that it takes some poking around to get stuff done at first. I also had problems that prevented me from dialing a number from MS Exchange if the numbers had an extension. 888-555-1212x1024. Even the copy/paste of text into phone number made calling a number of this form hard. Piece of cake on a BB or Droid, they dialed the number.

I would think the ability to integrate with your other apple products would likely be your deciding factor.

Apple and it's enthusiasts paint this picture of ease of use and it just working (reliability). This may have been true at one point for all products, but I believe (it's an opinion) it is definitely not the case with their mobile phones. iPhone was definitely the most different and thus took longer to adjust to. It may have been the most intuitive smart phone available... for some time, which is now gone.

 

[DiscoPhoto]

I think you'd have an exceptionally hard time proving that iPhones are not reliable. I've spilled water, beer, and various other drinks on mine, dropped it, sat on it, stepped on it, etc. My girlfriend was pissed when she got off the phone with me and threw hers against the wall. Glass broke on the back, but still works without issue.

I've had a 3G, 4, and 4S, never had one fail me. Switched to the 4 because after 2 years the battery wasn't holding a charge for more than a day, switched to the 4s because my sister switched providers and couldn't bring the iphone over.

Since I've had the 4S, the 5 and 5s have been released. I have not needed to upgrade because the 4S is such a solid phone that I am not in need of a new one.*





*and f*ck the new connection, I get the proprietary apple stuff, but damn everyone has a 32 pin charger at their house.