Actually, Gem knows firsthand about one important benefit of citizenship.macklow said:
To his defense, it wasn't all that important until four years ago, so he just didn't think of it.
100 octane in a DII?
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To his defense, it wasn't all that important until four years ago, so he just didn't think of it.
macklow said:
Not quite correct. You still have to register with selective service if you are a green card holder.
Downsides:
Pay taxes like everyone else
Can't vote
Deportable in some circumstances
Loose your greencard if you stay abroad for more than a year
Upsides:
No jury duty.
That being said, I know where gmookher is coming from when it comes to being pressured about becoming a citizen. While I don't know him personally and thinks he comes across as a pompous asshole with serious anger issues in many of his posts, I also know from personal experience that the citizenship issue is a very personal one, and quite frankly nobody elses business. Gem will apply for citizenship when he is ready. Or he will stay a LPR. Who cares. He will still come across as a pompous asshole with anger issues no matter what the color of his passport is.
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Used to use the Sunoco 100 octane it in my race Audi. Definitely a performance difference as the engine management adjusts for it (both stock and high performance ecus), I would assume the Rover ecu will do something similar, but not as extreme. With the Rover engine I don't think you'll see enough of a performance/economy gain to make it worth your time or money.
Oh and the nozzle for the Sunoco 100 octane is usually slightly bigger (similar to diesel) so you typically either have to fill five gallon buckets or use the old screwdriver to push down the flapper and let it pour in.
Nothing is like the smell of 100 octane, it's great (not as good as straight pipes, i.e. no cats). If nothing else do it once just to make your Rover smell like a race car (closest it'll ever get).
Oh and the nozzle for the Sunoco 100 octane is usually slightly bigger (similar to diesel) so you typically either have to fill five gallon buckets or use the old screwdriver to push down the flapper and let it pour in.
Nothing is like the smell of 100 octane, it's great (not as good as straight pipes, i.e. no cats). If nothing else do it once just to make your Rover smell like a race car (closest it'll ever get).
ptschram
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Axel said:
Axel:
I must respectfully disagree with you on the topic of it not being anyone else's business. You are well aware of how seriously I take being an American and my feelings of patriotism.
I consider those who live in the US for lengthy periods of time to be unfairly benefiting from being a resident while avoiding some of the things that may or may not be benefits to citizenship. The long-term permanent resident alien is taking advantage of a country and not necessarily giving back to it. In effect, they are enjoying the rights without the responsibility. Rights by their very nature are derived from and dependent upon one's accepting the responsibility that is inherent in the exercising of those rights. God given rights or not.
Sadly, I know many naturalized citizens who are better citizens than some folks who were born here. I suppose that those who have had to work to become citizens might consider it to be more valuable than those who are citizens by birthright.
Cheers,
PT
ptschram said:
Lets see PT, I cant help but reply to your anti I-551 sentiments
I get to pay TAX and SS just like you do, have the same exact ss card as you, but those arent benefits, thats shit you and I pay for our whole lives..hardly seems like a freebie or something I take advantage of. Dont you think so?
I can own property and have credit just like you, but thats no freebie, one needs qualifications, credentials and a source of income for that. I work a salary job and have a side business, EIN, carry insurance , etc, just like you...but I cant vote, uh,sorta taxation without representation for us greencardees. Not sure where I take advantage of anything, but I'd like you to tell me.
I cant hold office or vote, or serve in the forces. Up until a few years ago, I worked as a contractor to AAFES, DOD at bases like Mechanicsburg, Dix, Mcguire,etc, etc. Recently, non citizens are no longer able to do that work, so I am back in private sector cubicle land...less pay, regular guy again.
What are the benefits exactly that you feel I reap so unfairly? How is it I take advantage of this country? I work, I volunteer time to my local community, and fail to see the free ride youre refering to, rather, I feel having a greencard is the shorter end of the stick- we have all the same contributions and expenses but we have no voice, no vote, and as evidenced here, no status in the eyes of the general public. Not that I really give a shit what y'all think of me as long as we all wheel, that can be and if need be can serve as the only thread that connects us, even tho home to me is here.
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Paul, you have no idea what you're talking about. Patriotism is one thing, bitching about benefits is another.ptschram said:
Legal resident aliens have exactly the same responsibilities as citizens (with an exception to jury duty), and the same benefits - with an important exception to not being able to vote. In some sense, they benefit the society economically the same way as the citizens, but are unable to affect the policy in any way. The other benefit that resident aliens no longer can have is security clearance - something that most people don't even care to know about, but can cost others their jobs.
Illegal aliens is a totally different matter.
Edit: Gem, IIRC, resident aliens can serve in the military if they so choose.
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Geez, you guys would really hate me. I worked in the US for 6 years while living in Windsor Ontario. Crossed the border every day under a TN Visa.
Fact is, I contributed more than many US citizens. As a non-resident alien, I actually paid a higher tax rate than a citizen, while also not getting any of the Bush tax refunds or being able to deduct mortgage interest, etc. So I paid a very high tax rate.
Fact is, I contributed more than many US citizens. As a non-resident alien, I actually paid a higher tax rate than a citizen, while also not getting any of the Bush tax refunds or being able to deduct mortgage interest, etc. So I paid a very high tax rate.
p m said:
A green card holder, cannot be Commissioned in the US Military.
You must be a US citizen to be an officer.
Only officers are pilots in the Air Force.
A green card holder, can enlist in the USAF, but job selection is limited to those jobs that do not require a security clearance.
Similar rules exist in each other arm of services, navy, marines, etc, all set forth any public vote by the federal magistrate courts
If you are a member of the U.S. Armed Forces and are interested in becoming a U.S. citizen, you may be eligible to apply for citizenship under special provisions provided for in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).
Recent changes in the relevant sections of the INA (Sections 328 and 329) make it easier for qualified military personnel to become U.S. citizens if they choose to file a naturalization application.
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(USCIS) has created a stream-lined process specifically for military personnel serving in active-duty status or recently discharged.
Eligibility Requirements
Normally, a non-citizen wishing to become a United States Citizen must have five years of legal permanent residency in the U.S. to apply. Non-citizens married to a U.S. citizen for at least three years can apply after three years of residency.
However, special provisions apply for members of the Armed Forces:
Peacetime Military Service: Under INA Section 328, persons who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces (including active duty, reserves, or national guard), can file for Naturalization based on their current or prior U.S. military service. The requirements for eligibility are that the applicant must have served honorably or have separated from the service under honorable conditions, have completed one year or more of military service, and be a legal permanent resident at the time of his or her examination by USCIS on the Form N-400, Application for Naturalization. This used to be three years, but Congress changed it to one year in 2002. Filing for naturalization under this provision of the law, Section 328 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as amended (INA), excuses the applicant from any specific period of residence or physical presence within the United States, so long as the application is filed while the applicant is still serving with the military or within 6 months of an honorable discharge.
Service During Hostilities : By Executive Order Number 13269, dated July 3, 2002, President Bush declared that all those persons serving honorably in active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States at any time on or after September 11, 2001 until a date to be announced, are eligible to apply for naturalization in accordance with the service during hostilities statutory exception in Section 329 of the INA to the naturalization requirements. This means that individuals with even one day of honorable active duty service can apply for citizenship, regardless of how long they have been a resident.
Section 329 of the INA also applies to service-members who served on active duty during World War I, World War II, the Korean Conflict, the Vietnam Conflict, and Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm.
Posthumous Citizenship:Under section 329a of the INA, non-citizen servicemembers who die while serving honorably in an active-duty status during a declared period of hostilities, including Operation Enduring Freedom, and Operation Iraqi Freedon, and whose death was as a result of injury or disease incurred in or aggravated by that service, are eligible for posthumous naturalization. An application for posthumous citizenship can be filed on behalf of the deceased servicemember only by the next-of-kin or another representative. If the application is approved, the individual is declared a U.S. citizen retroactively to the day of his or her death.
Section 319(d) of the INA provides for the naturalization of the surviving spouse of a U.S. citizen who died while serving honorably in an active duty status in the armed forces of the United States. The spouse and U.S. citizen servicemember must have been living in marital union at the time of the citizen's death. All the other usual requirements for naturalization must be satisfied except that no prior residency or physical presence in the United States, a state, or immigration district is required to file a naturalization application.
Moral Character: To be eligible for naturalization, you must be a person of good moral character. CIS will make a determination on your moral character. Some of the factors CIS may consider are:
Criminal record -- The Application for Naturalization, Form N-400, asks several questions about crimes. You should report all crimes you have committed, including ones that have been expunged (removed from your record) and those that happened before your 18th birthday. If you do not tell CIS about these crimes and they are discovered through background checks, you may be denied naturalization even if the crime itself was not a crime for which your case could be denied.
Lying-- If you do not tell the truth during your interview with the CIS, they may deny your application for lacking good moral character. If CIS grants you naturalization and you are later found to have lied during your interview, your citizenship may be revoked. If you have questions, you may want to seek advice from an immigrant assistance organization, legal assistance attorney, or an immigration attorney before applying.
Proficiency in the English Language: The law requires applicants to demonstrate an understanding of the English language, including the ability to read, write, and speak simple words and phrases in ordinary usage of the English language.
Knowledge of Civics: According to the law, applicants must show that they have a knowledge and understanding of the fundamentals of the history, principles, and form of government of the United States.
Revocation of Citizenship:
Under current law, citizenship may be revolked if the citizenship was granted under Section 329 of the INA (Service During Hostilities), if the servicemember is discharged under other than honorable conditions. This does not apply to Section 328 of the INA (Service During Peacetime). In 2003, Congress considered legislation which would have amended the INA to allow revocation of citizenship in either case, if the member served less than five years and was discharged under other than honorable conditions, but this legislation was never passed.
Eligibility Requirements
Normally, a non-citizen wishing to become a United States Citizen must have five years of legal permanent residency in the U.S. to apply. Non-citizens married to a U.S. citizen for at least three years can apply after three years of residency.
However, special provisions apply for members of the Armed Forces:
Peacetime Military Service: Under INA Section 328, persons who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces (including active duty, reserves, or national guard), can file for Naturalization based on their current or prior U.S. military service. The requirements for eligibility are that the applicant must have served honorably or have separated from the service under honorable conditions, have completed one year or more of military service, and be a legal permanent resident at the time of his or her examination by USCIS on the Form N-400, Application for Naturalization. This used to be three years, but Congress changed it to one year in 2002. Filing for naturalization under this provision of the law, Section 328 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as amended (INA), excuses the applicant from any specific period of residence or physical presence within the United States, so long as the application is filed while the applicant is still serving with the military or within 6 months of an honorable discharge.
Service During Hostilities : By Executive Order Number 13269, dated July 3, 2002, President Bush declared that all those persons serving honorably in active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States at any time on or after September 11, 2001 until a date to be announced, are eligible to apply for naturalization in accordance with the service during hostilities statutory exception in Section 329 of the INA to the naturalization requirements. This means that individuals with even one day of honorable active duty service can apply for citizenship, regardless of how long they have been a resident.
Section 329 of the INA also applies to service-members who served on active duty during World War I, World War II, the Korean Conflict, the Vietnam Conflict, and Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm.
Posthumous Citizenship:Under section 329a of the INA, non-citizen servicemembers who die while serving honorably in an active-duty status during a declared period of hostilities, including Operation Enduring Freedom, and Operation Iraqi Freedon, and whose death was as a result of injury or disease incurred in or aggravated by that service, are eligible for posthumous naturalization. An application for posthumous citizenship can be filed on behalf of the deceased servicemember only by the next-of-kin or another representative. If the application is approved, the individual is declared a U.S. citizen retroactively to the day of his or her death.
Section 319(d) of the INA provides for the naturalization of the surviving spouse of a U.S. citizen who died while serving honorably in an active duty status in the armed forces of the United States. The spouse and U.S. citizen servicemember must have been living in marital union at the time of the citizen's death. All the other usual requirements for naturalization must be satisfied except that no prior residency or physical presence in the United States, a state, or immigration district is required to file a naturalization application.
Moral Character: To be eligible for naturalization, you must be a person of good moral character. CIS will make a determination on your moral character. Some of the factors CIS may consider are:
Criminal record -- The Application for Naturalization, Form N-400, asks several questions about crimes. You should report all crimes you have committed, including ones that have been expunged (removed from your record) and those that happened before your 18th birthday. If you do not tell CIS about these crimes and they are discovered through background checks, you may be denied naturalization even if the crime itself was not a crime for which your case could be denied.
Lying-- If you do not tell the truth during your interview with the CIS, they may deny your application for lacking good moral character. If CIS grants you naturalization and you are later found to have lied during your interview, your citizenship may be revoked. If you have questions, you may want to seek advice from an immigrant assistance organization, legal assistance attorney, or an immigration attorney before applying.
Proficiency in the English Language: The law requires applicants to demonstrate an understanding of the English language, including the ability to read, write, and speak simple words and phrases in ordinary usage of the English language.
Knowledge of Civics: According to the law, applicants must show that they have a knowledge and understanding of the fundamentals of the history, principles, and form of government of the United States.
Revocation of Citizenship:
Under current law, citizenship may be revolked if the citizenship was granted under Section 329 of the INA (Service During Hostilities), if the servicemember is discharged under other than honorable conditions. This does not apply to Section 328 of the INA (Service During Peacetime). In 2003, Congress considered legislation which would have amended the INA to allow revocation of citizenship in either case, if the member served less than five years and was discharged under other than honorable conditions, but this legislation was never passed.
ptschram
Well-known member
Voting, holding office and jury duty are damned important parts of being a citizen. IMO, these are responsibilities, not rights!
There are people in other parts of the world who are fighting and dying to be able to have those rights (er, responsibilities) that too many Americans take for granted.
Thank God I'm an American citizen where I can have unpopular opinions and freely exercise them.
There are people in other parts of the world who are fighting and dying to be able to have those rights (er, responsibilities) that too many Americans take for granted.
Thank God I'm an American citizen where I can have unpopular opinions and freely exercise them.
ptschram said:
I am indeed aware that my greencard is a privilege and not a 'right'.
I am also glad I can have unpopular opinions and freely exercise them, esp here on Dweb!!!
Don't confuse unpopular with uneducated, Paul.ptschram said:
Voting and jury duty may be responsibilities (on top of being rights), but not very taxing ones. Holding office - give me a break.
I'd can the entire thread...
I think the title should be changed to "What in the hell does 100 octane gas have to do with engineering, immigrant status, citizenship and vituperation?"