2013 DWeb Utah Trip

chris snell

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Let's do this.



I read the discussion in the 2012 thread and put together some notes with everybody's preferred dates for a 2013 trip. Considering those notes and the likely weather forecast, here's what I propose:


This will be a bit later in the spring than the last trip and I think that's a good thing. I'm hoping that we'll see a little less of this weather...



and a little more of this weather...




As for the route, I'm thinking something like Hanksville to Kanab via the Henrys, Waterpocket Fold, Boulder and Escalante. Like the last trip, this should be a good mix of canyon and alpine driving.

Like last year...

It's probably obvious to most, but this kind of trip is a lot different from a trip to the National Rally. The trails are long and rough, it's incredibly dusty, and we'll be a long way from the nearest commercial airport or fancy hotel. I don't want to say "it's a guys' trip" but it's tough living out there and whoever you bring will need a good attitude for these sorts of things. Kids are definitely not advised. Also keep in mind that dogs are not allowed in some areas, so please leave the pups at home.

The details:

  • This trip is an open invite; all are welcome but we must limit the total number of participants for practicality's sake and to comply with BLM regs.
  • If you participated last year, you have a spot on this trip if you want it.
  • The trip will be laissez-faire. No hard itinerary, no meal plan, etc
  • Budget for 700 miles worth of gas, plus whatever it takes to you to get there.
  • Plan on meeting in Hanksville at 11 AM on the first day.
Vehicle requirements are purposefully minimal. With a skilled driver, a stock Land Rover should be able to complete this trip no problemo. The most important thing is to have a truck that's in good shape mechanically. Last year, the group drove hundreds of rough off-road miles and the group's only casualty was a busted shock.

At a minimum, you will need:

  • Solid recovery points, front and rear
  • NO TRAILERS
  • 25 gallons of fuel onboard. 30 gallons is preferred.
  • Food and water for five days
  • Full size spare
  • 2-way radio with 70cm band. Ham radio license strongly advised, as most of us are licensed. If you can't get licensed by May, bring along some FRS radios and batteries.
 
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mgreenspan

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When is the decision deadline? I have wanted to do this trip in the past but just moved back to the US this summer and wife's due date is tmw so I'd have an 8 month old at the planned trip time. I discussed with her about doing a trip like like this and she said I could but I don't think I'd know for sure about this one until later on. She said she'd just go back to England with the baby for a vacation while I do a trip like this(but I'll probably realistically be able to the following year).
 

chris snell

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mgreenspan said:
When is the decision deadline?
There's no real deadline but when we're full, we're full. There will probably be some sort of deposit on a permit that we'll collect to separate the lookers from the buyers.
 

fishEH

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When you say "25-30 gallons of fuel on board" does that include what's in your tank? Just asking because that's 5-6 jerry cans worth otherwise.
 

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fishEH said:
When you say "25-30 gallons of fuel on board" does that include what's in your tank? Just asking because that's 5-6 jerry cans worth otherwise.
25-30 total, including what's in the tank. On the last trip, I had a 15 gal tank + two 5-gal cans and it was not quite enough. I ended up bumming another 7 gallons or so to get me back to Moab. I plan on taking at least 30 gal total this time.
 

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I've used the entire tank on the D1, +5 gallons from the jerrycan. Made it to the gas station on fumes.
Next year I'll have two jerrycans with me.
 

benlittle

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Looks like we'll the same attendees as last year plus some additions.

Chris Snell
Jason Rose
Bill Gill
Ben Little
Peter Matusov
Kevin Day

Stuart Ivie
Dan Kemper
Possible Rob Davison fly out/ ride along
 

stu454

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I may just breakdown and get my buddy's old Wilderness Rack. It's not EE-approved but it'll make fitting all of our gear, including 2-3 jerry cans, easier.

And it's funkshunal.

We used it to bring a Hannibal for an RRC back from the National Rally in '08. It worked like a champ, if not a charm.

 

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stu454 said:
I may just breakdown and get my buddy's old Wilderness Rack. It's not EE-approved but it'll make fitting all of our gear, including 2-3 jerry cans, easier.

And it's funkshunal.

We used it to bring a Hannibal for an RRC back from the National Rally in '08. It worked like a champ, if not a charm.

Nothing is EE approved. Mount it and roll.
 

chris snell

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benlittle said:
Looks like we'll the same attendees as last year plus some additions.

Chris Snell
Jason Rose
Bill Gill
Ben Little
Peter Matusov
Kevin Day

Stuart Ivie
Dan Kemper
Possible Rob Davison fly out/ ride along
I also have:

Alex Civick
Jim Sanville
...and my friend Erik.

Alex, Jim, and Erik: guys, if you are still wanting to come, can you speak up now? You guys spoke up early and you have a spot but we're getting close to full now and need to know.
 
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jrose609

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stu454 said:
I may just breakdown and get my buddy's old Wilderness Rack. It's not EE-approved but it'll make fitting all of our gear, including 2-3 jerry cans, easier.

And it's funkshunal.

We used it to bring a Hannibal for an RRC back from the National Rally in '08. It worked like a champ, if not a charm.

Get it, Stu. You'll be glad you did. It's nice to be able to throw some firewood up top too.

For the price your buddy is asking, it's a no-brainer
 
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