2020 Defender

Howski

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I was completely wrong to (jokingly) compare the new Defender to the Bronco Sport. The Bronco Sport is pitiful and the new D is growing on me
 

MM3846

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I was completely wrong to (jokingly) compare the new Defender to the Bronco Sport. The Bronco Sport is pitiful and the new D is growing on me

I know "every vehicle with good traction control can get up hell's gate." But you know what couldn't? My old XJ on 33s without a front locker. I wish it was a little bigger, I'd put my wife in one. Unfortunately it's too small in the backseat area.
 

pinkytoe69

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Wife and I oogled a 110 that got on the interstate in front us on the way home today.

- The rear door looks tiny, and the entire cabin looks really skinny in general.

- It's an interesting looking SUV. Not groundbreakingly unique, but definitely not like everything else on the road.

- Wife LOVES it. After getting a good look at the back, we passed around. Seeing the front she exclaimed:

OMG it's like they took the old one and made it cute just for ME!!!

- Have a feeling @ERover82 will have something to say about that quote 🤪
 
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Ballah06

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Yeah, saw a soccer mom driving one (new Defender) in Alexandria, VA a few days ago. Meh. I am past that. Not sure about the Bronco either as the back seat on the 4-door version looks rather small. Thinking of looking closer at the 4Runner TRD Pro. For the price, it's worth consideration imo.
 

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I know "every vehicle with good traction control can get up hell's gate." But you know what couldn't? My old XJ on 33s without a front locker. I wish it was a little bigger, I'd put my wife in one. Unfortunately it's too small in the backseat area.
You did not have the right spotter. Isn't the Bronco Sport an Escape?
 

Ballah06

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It's less about who drives it and more about who the styling is meant to appeal to.

It seems strange to court Kawaii folks with your rugged off-roader.
Not sure about the Kawaii reference, but I mean my earlier comment as having looked at the Defender and realizing it's not really worth the price and that there are better suited options for myself. Seeing a soccer mom driving the D was just a sidebar comment.
 

MM3846

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Yeah, saw a soccer mom driving one (new Defender) in Alexandria, VA a few days ago. Meh. I am past that. Not sure about the Bronco either as the back seat on the 4-door version looks rather small. Thinking of looking closer at the 4Runner TRD Pro. For the price, it's worth consideration imo.
the 4runner drives like a camry. Not in a good way.

You did not have the right spotter. Isn't the Bronco Sport an Escape?
entirely possible, it was my first time there. got up to the last hump and couldnt get over it. and yea, but platform sharing has come a long way. The Lambo Urus and Audi A4 are on the same platform.
 
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MM3846

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Well, shitballs. Why you got to shatter my early on dreams like that? Fudge. Ok, well I have not driven one yet, but I guess that is a drawback. Any other shittiness issues with it I may need to consider?
Well, I didnt test drive a TRD Pro, I tried a 2020 SR5 and a TRD off road premium, and a 2013 trail. If you blindfolded me and dropped me into one at 60-80 mph, I'd tell you it was a Camry. It rides nice. It steers easy around town. Theres more room in the backseat (2nd row) than the driver and passenger seats. The motor has adequate power, but the transmission doesnt know what the fuck to do with it. I liked the interior of the older truck better, the new ones have the fit and finish and material quality of what I'd expect of a $40k 2015 model, not a 2021. You get better materials in a new Elantra.

Also, the visibility out sucks and the headroom pretty much isn't there with a sunroof (I'm 6'). The driving position is typical Toyota, which you either like or don't.