jafir said:
Actually the Toyota stuff is cheap compared to the D1 options left.. The breaking strength of the 30 spline front setup is 8900-9000 foot pounds of torque per longfields site..
Any solutions for the weak D2 CV's ?
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Actually the Toyota stuff is cheap compared to the D1 options left.. The breaking strength of the 30 spline front setup is 8900-9000 foot pounds of torque per longfields site..
oh, and in the field, i dont think I have seen a shaft failure, mostly birf failures, and on the FJ80 it is pretty rare. I can think of maybe 3 posts between pirate and Ih8mud that actually broke them.
a HUGE advantage to the swap over d2 stuff is full float. IE break a shaft and you can still get home without the hub failing.
a HUGE advantage to the swap over d2 stuff is full float. IE break a shaft and you can still get home without the hub failing.
KyleT said:
How could the hub fail on a D2 from a shaft or CV break? Just curious, If i'm picturing it in my head correctly I dont see how it would bother the Hub.
jafir said:
So the D2 is the 23 spline stuff or the 32? Asuming the D2's are 32, what would it take to swap to 23 spine stuff?
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mike97d1 said:
I don't think d1 and d2 are going to be interchangeable at all. I was only posting the links to suggest that late d1 and d2 were similar in strength.
To be fair the FJ80 is heavier and uses larger tires stock, so it damn well better have stronger axles.
EricTyrrell said:
The FJ80 weighs about the same as the d2 according to Wikipedia 4,500-4,800lbs I would guess that's depending on the trim package. The FJ80 axles are just hands down stronger.. I may go that route with my next build.
For the love of Christ, Ashcroft fronts are $700. Somebody put together a price list for putting a Toyota axle in the front, and include the labor costs for the fabwork. If it is under $700 to put another axle assembly under the truck and make it look and work properly (no shitty welds that have 1/16" penetration) then the suggestion is advisable.
There is something to be said about keeping a Rover a rover. Personally, the FJ80 stock compared to D2 stock is hands down a more reliable and stronger truck...so why not just buy an FJ80? Obviously, you can buy 2 D2's for the price of a clean 80, so is it just a question of price going with the Rover?
There is something to be said about keeping a Rover a rover. Personally, the FJ80 stock compared to D2 stock is hands down a more reliable and stronger truck...so why not just buy an FJ80? Obviously, you can buy 2 D2's for the price of a clean 80, so is it just a question of price going with the Rover?
you basically have to take it all apart, get the busted axle shaft out, cut the shaft or reinstall the busted stubshaft then tighten it back down. front is the same, but you have to get the cv cleaned out and the shaft out then reinstall it. Pulling that shaft out of the unit bearing hub isn't exactly a trail side job.mike97d1 said:
a d2 hub wont make it around the block without the stub in the bearings and the nut tight. i break i pull 6 nuts and some cone washers and drive or strap out easily.
LC came with 31's. us spec came with 265/70/16's so barely a 32".
LC weighs about 800 lbs more than a D2.
oh and D2 unit bearing hubs are like 430 each now.
seventyfive said:
Yea, duh!
Still even if it takes $500+ more to get it set up its still better than my other options. Mind you this would be for replacing a 10 spline RRC front and rear..
my point is this, the original post was about finding an 'economical' solution to weak cv splines. If a guy thinks something that bolts on is expensive and can't understand the importance of the investment, then you know 100% he would never go the route of cutting and welding.
My suggestion to the original poster, is buy a couple used sets of axles and keep them in your truck. Keep the knuckles clean and lubed, so they tap right off when you have to pull them on the trail. Fwiw, my brother runs 37" bloggers on his defender with stock front axles....but he keeps that in mind when he's picking his line.
My suggestion to the original poster, is buy a couple used sets of axles and keep them in your truck. Keep the knuckles clean and lubed, so they tap right off when you have to pull them on the trail. Fwiw, my brother runs 37" bloggers on his defender with stock front axles....but he keeps that in mind when he's picking his line.
This is true good point Mike.
Call me a redneck but I don't want to have to think about anything when I am wheeling other than skinny pedal..
Call me a redneck but I don't want to have to think about anything when I am wheeling other than skinny pedal..
Kyle,
(Keep in mind, I like you guys I'm not trying to be a dickhole). Produce a parts list with pricing and include any adapters for wheels, brake lines, etc. All necessary hardware, brackets, tabs, etc. then a realistic estimate on a shop cutting and welding. There is no way it's more economical than $700. I'm not talking about you doing it at home doing all the work, talking about a shop to do it. Remember, this isn't pirate.
I'm sure the original poster can install axles himself, but unless he has access to a plasma, torch, welder, etc he will be paying someone to do it.
Remember how fast just parts add up.....which we never think about until we order the shit. I'm still cringing thinking about the joints and tubing for my front links.
(Keep in mind, I like you guys I'm not trying to be a dickhole). Produce a parts list with pricing and include any adapters for wheels, brake lines, etc. All necessary hardware, brackets, tabs, etc. then a realistic estimate on a shop cutting and welding. There is no way it's more economical than $700. I'm not talking about you doing it at home doing all the work, talking about a shop to do it. Remember, this isn't pirate.
I'm sure the original poster can install axles himself, but unless he has access to a plasma, torch, welder, etc he will be paying someone to do it.
Remember how fast just parts add up.....which we never think about until we order the shit. I'm still cringing thinking about the joints and tubing for my front links.
Mongo said:
I also agree with crazy Mike on this even though he is being a vagina..
I want to turn 40's.. I'm trying to figure out how much weight I can loose from the RRC to make this possible.