anybody build an internal roll cage?

robertf

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Internal is a waste on these trucks. I'm toying with the idea of a combo internal/exo cage like a defender, but might end up with a full exo. If you wheel anywhere where there are trees eventually a door or two will not open from the rain gutter being bent over the window.
 
Let's see, we've put one in, cut it up, cut it out and just yesterday, removed the front crossbar of the internal cage in Gary's truck. The new bender will be here next Monday and the rest of the tubing we've been tripping over for the past year will get put to work.

So, to answer your question, yes, I've built an internal roll cage, removed it, put it back in and taken it back out.

Not for the faint of heart and not for those who are particularly concerned about passengers ease of ingress/egress, or maintaining a stock appearance.
 

roverMc

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robertf said:
Internal is a waste on these trucks. I'm toying with the idea of a combo internal/exo cage like a defender, but might end up with a full exo. If you wheel anywhere where there are trees eventually a door or two will not open from the rain gutter being bent over the window.

You ever seen one rolled in a wreck? Not pretty. I've been thinking about an internal, just not sure how to do it.
 

robertf

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roverMc said:
You ever seen one rolled in a wreck? Not pretty. I've been thinking about an internal, just not sure how to do it.


The vehicle will still be destroyed with an internal cage in a roll over.
 

MUSKYMAN

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Robert the internal cage isnt about keeping the truck safe, it is about keeping the driver safe in a worst case flip or roll.

the A pillars get pretty much flatened in hard rolls, I straight back flip or a front roll would be NASTY.

As far as the roof goes in the trees, the SD racks do a great job of protecting the roof. I have dragged mine along hundreds of trees over the years without issue.
 

robertf

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I agree that the ultimate goal is driver safety, but my wheeling disco is my toy and if I flop it I want it to see the light of day again. Internal caged SUV's usually end up as full out truggys or junkyard material after a roll.

Disco A pillars hold up much better than other makes. I've had to help the owners cut windshields and roofs off of 2 vehicles for the drive home. Both the weekend after I finished converting their junk to EFI. Maybe I'm a curse. At least they ran upside down :D
 

MUSKYMAN

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robertf said:
Disco A pillars hold up much better than other makes. I've had to help the owners cut windshields and roofs off of 2 vehicles for the drive home. Both the weekend after I finished converting their junk to EFI. Maybe I'm a curse. At least they ran upside down :D

not really sure what you are basing this on but I have seen dozens of rolled disco's between the ones posted here, on other sites and in person in junk yards.

they all have colapsed A pillars and intact B pillars.

I happen to sit between those so I have long wanted to put a front hoop in mine.

If I was to flop mine hard enough to go all the way over I am starting over on it anyways. toy of not the body mounts and such would all then be suspect and I just wouldent feel good about driving next to people on the road at highway speed.
 

gmookher

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some one make a bolt in or pre fit exo cage a la defender for the windshield or an internal roll bar for a d2 that lets the seat go all the way back and it will sell, I'll be 1st customer
 

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Ive bounced the idea around but just see that the extra weight up top will just make it flop that much easier...ive seen a rover roll off road and besides a bunch of broken glass and smashed top NONE of the pillers ever gave out. My buddy has the SD internal...its nice but the exo looks better
 

Lake_Bueller

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I agree with Musky that most HARD rollovers collapse the A pillar. The B pillar usually remains in tack. But these are usually serious accidents with speed and/or multiple rolls. Most pictures of trail "flops" (I've never seen one in person) don't do the same damage.

Based on the terrain on my "local" trails, I don't seen the benefit of adding a roll cage.
 

ratboy

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http://www.neneoverland.co.uk/4x4services/imgs/roll_cages/IMG_5489a.jpg
go external, looks cooler. there are a couple mfg's out there.
i like this idea, but i would want more cage. maybe go all the way down to the chassis. i am worried about the truck getting flattened but im more worried about me getting flattened. i dont think the trails i run are that scary either but its a great excuse to weld more stuff on my truck. maybe something like this...
 

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that thing looks retarded....if you are thinking exo just go truggy. i would be up for a defender style roll cage, but it'd need to have reinforcement to the frame and now just the body panels...