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MUSKYMAN

MUSKYMAN

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Anybody that sends this guy money is a complete moron, He has now shown he takes money without shipping product and the products he does ship are of the worst quality and design money can buy.
 
jhmover

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MUSKYMAN said:
Also...

Anybody that sends this guy money is a complete moron, He has now shown he takes money without shipping product and the products he does ship are of the worst quality and design money can buy.
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Think of all the lives he's saving who never get their order!
 
quick128

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ptschram said:
My God it's melted down over on LRR.

I've made some mistakes in business, but I'm sure glad I have never dug myself such a deep hole as it looks like he has. I wish he'd put the shovel down and stop digging.
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can you post a link to it. I can't seem to navigate that site.
 
teledan

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jhmover said:
Look at Orange County Choppers....those guys don't take even close to that long to build a custom chopper from the ground up. 10 months for a fucking bumper?
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Actually, they usually just pay people to make stuff for them and then they bolt the crap all together and call themselves "Chopper Builders" (which is an oxy-moron anyway).
 
mbrummal

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teledan said:
Actually, they usually just pay people to make stuff for them and then they bolt the crap all together and call themselves "Chopper Builders" (which is an oxy-moron anyway).
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at least they get something out the door in a timely manner.
 
teledan

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mbrummal said:
at least they get something out the door in a timely manner.
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Thats true, but if someone paid me $80,000 for a piece of shit, I would have it out the door pretty dang quick too. 300 bucks for a piece of shit, now thats a different story :)
 
az_max

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teledan said:
Actually, they usually just pay people to make stuff for them and then they bolt the crap all together and call themselves "Chopper Builders" (which is an oxy-moron anyway).
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Both their production bikes and specialty bikes have had all kinds of issues and with limited help from the Pauls. Even Jay Leno was threatening to sue over his Enfield look-alike.
 
Rugbier

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The part I like the most is the " Legal Talk ", what a douchebag, and if he files a lawsuit against any of the people complaining for being ripped off with lousy excuses, his attorney ( although I doubt he has one ) is of equal quality
 
ptschram

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Rugbier said:
The part I like the most is the " Legal Talk ", what a douchebag, and if he files a lawsuit against any of the people complaining for being ripped off with lousy excuses, his attorney ( although I doubt he has one ) is of equal quality
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I liked it when he said he records every conversation. The occasions I've spoken with him, I wasn't informed I was being recorded.

Sounds like thin ice with big cracks.
 
az_max

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ptschram said:
I liked it when he said he records every conversation. The occasions I've spoken with him, I wasn't informed I was being recorded.

Sounds like thin ice with big cracks.
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In the state he's in, do both parties have to know you're being recorded? In Az, only one side needs to know it's recorded.
 
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