Been there and done that on my old RRC, not interested anymore. This ones as modified as it's going to be. Well the motor might get swapped someday...
Disco II Radius Arm bushings
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ptschram
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New to the Disco world, my last truck was a P38. On those, the stock bushings were bigger than the arms and you had to use the special LR tool wich was a cupped bearing press tool that would in essence "squeeze" the bushing into the arm on the press. I saw that and opted for british made poly bushings. Cheaper too..
I know this is about D2 bushings, so I don't know if these finding apply.
However, on the D1/RRC/Defender bushings, beware. I don't know what's up with replacement bushings right now. It's obvious there has been some changes.
Back in January I got the death wobbles. Bad! I found my panhard bushing were toast, so I replaced them with genuine. All was good.
In March I got the wobbles again. It was so bad this time I had to leave the truck, get a ride home to get another truck and trailer, and trailer my truck the 20 miles home. Again, my panhard bushings were toast. I, again, replaced them with genuine. I also replaced the radius arm bushings with genuine.
In April my truck took a 1,400 mile trip to Texas. By the time it got there the panhard bushing were toast, again. This time I replaced the panhad rod with a rod from a parts truck. I'm guessing the bushings in this rod were from the factory. I've been running these bushings ever since and all is well.
However, now my radius arm bushings are toast. Already. They probably have around 6 or 8k miles on them.
This is not right. It HAS to be a production problem. I know I'm not the only one having these issues, either. Not too long ago Tillery was having a problem with panhard rod bushings, too.
I just received a set of poly bushings from Lucky8 I'm going to try on my radius arms. I hate poly bushings. But at this point I'm willing to give them another try. We'll see....
However, on the D1/RRC/Defender bushings, beware. I don't know what's up with replacement bushings right now. It's obvious there has been some changes.
Back in January I got the death wobbles. Bad! I found my panhard bushing were toast, so I replaced them with genuine. All was good.
In March I got the wobbles again. It was so bad this time I had to leave the truck, get a ride home to get another truck and trailer, and trailer my truck the 20 miles home. Again, my panhard bushings were toast. I, again, replaced them with genuine. I also replaced the radius arm bushings with genuine.
In April my truck took a 1,400 mile trip to Texas. By the time it got there the panhard bushing were toast, again. This time I replaced the panhad rod with a rod from a parts truck. I'm guessing the bushings in this rod were from the factory. I've been running these bushings ever since and all is well.
However, now my radius arm bushings are toast. Already. They probably have around 6 or 8k miles on them.
This is not right. It HAS to be a production problem. I know I'm not the only one having these issues, either. Not too long ago Tillery was having a problem with panhard rod bushings, too.
I just received a set of poly bushings from Lucky8 I'm going to try on my radius arms. I hate poly bushings. But at this point I'm willing to give them another try. We'll see....
LOL.
1) they're more rigid, and you do notice the truck riding a bit more stiff if you replace all your rubbers with poly at once. I don't like feeling those vibrations. Vibrations = noise and I like the truck cab as quite as possible.
....course, I ruined this by installing those QT motor mounts.
2) they start to squeak over time. FUCK I hate squeaks.
1) they're more rigid, and you do notice the truck riding a bit more stiff if you replace all your rubbers with poly at once. I don't like feeling those vibrations. Vibrations = noise and I like the truck cab as quite as possible.
....course, I ruined this by installing those QT motor mounts.
2) they start to squeak over time. FUCK I hate squeaks.
Dooder said:
I used an 80-Ton. Just what I have available. But, I bet I had one that didn't crack loose until I hit 8-ton. So a standard 15-ton should work fine, or you might get lucky and get by with a 5-ton.
Dooder said:
Two Girls One Cup
I've got a wonderful way to press those bushings in, and it has never failed.
Step 1: Remove the bushings from the shipping container, but not from their packaging.
Step 2: Place the bushings in a plastic bag. Any bag will do, but a grocery bag is the most convenient.
Step 3: Place them in any drivable vehicle, but be sure to keep them away from the throttle and brake pedals, as well as away from the driver's seat.
Step 4: Now, this bit requires experience and a special license, but you can get one in nearly every town. You've got to carefully fire up the engine, adjust the climate control in contrast to the weather outside, and place the vehicle in reverse (or drive, if you like to keep the vehicle pointing in the other direction like I do). Back it up until it's on a public road.
Step 5: Drive your ass down to a machinist and pay him to press the bushings in for you.
Cheers,
Kennith
Step 1: Remove the bushings from the shipping container, but not from their packaging.
Step 2: Place the bushings in a plastic bag. Any bag will do, but a grocery bag is the most convenient.
Step 3: Place them in any drivable vehicle, but be sure to keep them away from the throttle and brake pedals, as well as away from the driver's seat.
Step 4: Now, this bit requires experience and a special license, but you can get one in nearly every town. You've got to carefully fire up the engine, adjust the climate control in contrast to the weather outside, and place the vehicle in reverse (or drive, if you like to keep the vehicle pointing in the other direction like I do). Back it up until it's on a public road.
Step 5: Drive your ass down to a machinist and pay him to press the bushings in for you.
Cheers,
Kennith
ptschram
Well-known member
D Chapman said:
So it wasn't just me that got that bad batch of bushings? Like you'd kinda insinuated-LOL.
I had similar experiences and went to the next level of bushing, more expensive but haven't had a problem since. I don't know if it was a bad batch that has since been culled but I'm not selling the least expensive panhard rod bushings.
I don't know what they cost. My parts guy and I have a handshake business agreement where we trade some stuff back-and-forth. But these were genuine bushings I used. I've always had good luck with genuine in the past, so I was surprised to have these issues. I also do not really know who makes replacements other than genuine. I'm sure Allmakes has a part, as I sure Britparts does too. I'm not really interested in doing business with either do to problems in the past with their parts. But this is the first time with genuine parts I've had an issue.
When I'm not so lazy I'll get these poly bushings installed and see how they hold up over time.
When I'm not so lazy I'll get these poly bushings installed and see how they hold up over time.
I know this is a DII thread, but here is what I was talking about earlier. These rubber bushing have less than 10,000 miles on them. Probably closer to 6,000 miles.
These were Genuine bushings from Land Rover. Both sides looked like this, not just one. You can also see the front bushing is failing, too, as the center collar is falling out on its own.
Here is one of the Pan Hard Rod bushings tat had very low miles on it. Maybe 2,000 miles at the most. These went in the same time as the radius arm bushings.
It's obvious Land Rover got some bad rubber.
I replaced the pan hard rod with a new rod from a donor truck. The stock bushings have held up fine after 5,000 or 6,000 miles so far. Today I replaced the radius arm bushings with some poly's from Lucky 8.
I don't understand why they can't just make black poly bushings.....
These were Genuine bushings from Land Rover. Both sides looked like this, not just one. You can also see the front bushing is failing, too, as the center collar is falling out on its own.
Here is one of the Pan Hard Rod bushings tat had very low miles on it. Maybe 2,000 miles at the most. These went in the same time as the radius arm bushings.
It's obvious Land Rover got some bad rubber.
I replaced the pan hard rod with a new rod from a donor truck. The stock bushings have held up fine after 5,000 or 6,000 miles so far. Today I replaced the radius arm bushings with some poly's from Lucky 8.
I don't understand why they can't just make black poly bushings.....
