Got Wood?

JohnK

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Nomar said:
LOL! It's pretty messy out there in the winter! Of course in the summer, it's littered with Natural Lite cans and Gin bottles...
When my neighbor has a party, they throw their beer bottles off their deck into their own yard.

I'm surprised you don't need to have a gated fence or retractable cover for the pool.
 

emmodg

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I did not read the thread. But, I'm sure it was mentioned. The plastic shit is awesome. I had it on a deck and a porch. A 15 minute pressure wash twice a year, and the shit looks brand new.

Never had a problem with the shit.


Yeah, that's what TREX is. I do like it!
 

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garrett said:
JB. i think that is a floaty that Jeff had made. the dogs like to hump that thing like there is no tomorrow. certainly can't blame them.
It really pisses the neighbors off when the Garrett-floaty blows into their yard! We try to keep it tethered now.
 

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you have any idea when this change took place? everything up until pretty recently (year or so) was inorganic arsenic.

We were talking about it a few months ago but I am not sure when it changed. I will ask him next time I talk with him about what changed and when.
 
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the new SALA (school of architecture & landscape architecture) building. highest LEED rating. if you have not taken a walk through the building do so! very cool building. is located just off Park Ave, adjacent to "Hort Woods" and the Arts Building and old water tower.

i personally worked on some LEED buildings while working with LR Kimball in State College. mostly state buildings and high schools.
 
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galen216

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garrett said:
the new SALA (school of architecture & landscape architecture) building. highest LEED rating. if you have not taken a walk through the building do so! very cool building. is located just off Park Ave, adjacent to "Hort Woods" and the Arts Building and old water tower.

i personally worked on some LEED buildings while working with LR Kimball in State College. mostly state buildings and high schools.

I know the building as it sits on the parking lot I used when I took most of my art classes. I'll have to check it out.

My wife was a textile designer for a carpet company and talked about LEEDS all the time. They were one of the few companies in the country that still made full wool content carpet. Beautiful stuff but very expensive.
 

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garrett said:
the "evil", if there is any, would be the treated lumber that is so widely used. hard not to use it though. not one piece of it is allowed here on the farm.

Intesting. Are you referring to the 'old' "salt-treated" wood - CCA - chromic copper arsenate, or the 'new' stuff, ACQ - ammonium copper quartenary? The old stuff was indeed bad - you couldn't even burn it to get rid of it, but the newer stuff doesn't have the same poisons/carcinogens. Supposedly, it can be used for direct human contact (benches and stuff) just not for food preparation (like cutting boards....)

The new stuff is fairly 'aggressive' WRT galvanic action on metal fasteners. You have to use hot dipped nails or specially-coated screws - or stainless - which gets expensive quick. Just finished a sizeable fencing project with the ACQ stuff, most everything 'shot' with a Paslode cordless nailer. Oh, if any of y'all need bulk fasteners, search out a company called NailZone. Best prices around.
 

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galen216 said:
I know the building as it sits on the parking lot I used when I took most of my art classes. I'll have to check it out.

My wife was a textile designer for a carpet company and talked about LEEDS all the time. They were one of the few companies in the country that still made full wool content carpet. Beautiful stuff but very expensive.

yep. you got it. that is where i took my art classes too. started taking them at night while in high school. Palmer Musuem of Art is now connected to that building. in front of the Forum.
my father spent his last years at PSU working very hard on getting that building "green". the donor (who gave $10 million) wanted a very formal and bold building, but thankfully he got talked out of it. the architects (PSU) wanted it located on a corner so that is was more visible and fullfilled their ego as well i am sure.
you should really take a walk through the building and studio spaces. pisses me off that i spent 5 years in the Engineering units (D) when i was in school. now they have state of the art studios that makes Harvard's GSD studios look like crap. ah well.
 

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apg said:
Intesting. Are you referring to the 'old' "salt-treated" wood - CCA - chromic copper arsenate, or the 'new' stuff, ACQ - ammonium copper quartenary? The old stuff was indeed bad - you couldn't even burn it to get rid of it, but the newer stuff doesn't have the same poisons/carcinogens. Supposedly, it can be used for direct human contact (benches and stuff) just not for food preparation (like cutting boards....)

The new stuff is fairly 'aggressive' WRT galvanic action on metal fasteners. You have to use hot dipped nails or specially-coated screws - or stainless - which gets expensive quick. Just finished a sizeable fencing project with the ACQ stuff, most everything 'shot' with a Paslode cordless nailer. Oh, if any of y'all need bulk fasteners, search out a company called NailZone. Best prices around.

yeh i am talking about the metal salts treated lumber with inorganic arsenic and other goodies. i know i saw some of it not that long ago. i had not seen this new ACQ stuff yet. then again i have not had the need for any treated lumber in some time.
like i said we have a portable saw mill here and everything (for the most part) gets cut and milled here on site.
 

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Garrett reminds me of Mike Brady, you know, the famous architect with like 8 kids or something. I think his wife's name was Carol maybe?
 

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garrett said:
like i said we have a portable saw mill here and everything (for the most part) gets cut and milled here on site.

Cool. Got an attachment for the chainsaw to turn out 'dimension' lumber, but it's a saw, not a mill.

What do y'all use for posts and such? Locust?

Cheers
 

emmodg

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Locust makes a good post, relatively straight and resists rot to some degree.Those chainsaw "mill" attachments seem pretty cool.
 

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apg said:
Cool. Got an attachment for the chainsaw to turn out 'dimension' lumber, but it's a saw, not a mill.

What do y'all use for posts and such? Locust?

Cheers

we use what we have that has been pulled out of the woods. most of the post and fencing is oak. this fall we just installed three new paddocks behind the barn where our horses are. the guys here that work on the farm build the gates that are really nice. out of oak as well.

locust would be great. i was pulling old posts out last year at the farm in MD that were about 60 years old. i cut them up and used them for firewood. stuff is amazing. a few 16" pieces would last all day in the wood stove.

there is also a TON of high tensile fence here too. miles and miles of it. used only for the sheep, but those round posts come from a fencing company in PA. i think they are actually pine. not 100% about that. since we go through so many it is not very efficient to use the post hole digger and use square posts. the round ones are installed with the big tractor with a post driver. takes 3 minutes to pile drive a post.
 

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OK! I have removed all the decking around the pool and now only have some deck on both ends.
Who's got the cheapest source of IPE Ironwood?? Online wood drop-ship places? My local lumber places aren't too economical...Alot of my original deck will be concrete but we'll still have some wood in places..so I'm considering the ironwood again.
 

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you saw the pics of our new Ipe wood deck. i can ask the contractor that installed it, but you know what the final cost of ours was. freaking nuts! and it was just to replace the decking. but oh how nice it looks. well except when i spilled my beer on it.

just buy it man. it only costs you like two root canals.
 

MarkP

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A friend put Procell down. Wears like iron. They have a large dog and there are ZERO claw marks on the deck. It looks great after years of Colorado sun and weather.

When you attach the deck boards use Deckmaster. No surface screw holes that collect moisture and damage the material. Provides a clean looking surface.