Got Wood?

MarkP

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garrett said:
i think he is looking for natural wood. i know the stuff looks decent and lasts a long time, but you just can't beat a quality wood product. not to mention Ipe wood looks better than any composite material.

Procell is one the best composites but I agree, it doesn't look or feel like wood. Then again the Procell deck will still be in good shape 10+ years down the road while the wood deck is beginning to decay. At the time they installed it Procell had a 50 year warranty. Appears they have gone to lifetime, virtually the same length of time as far as I'm concerned. Here in Colorado the sun and large thermal swings tear up wood in short order.
 

GregH

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I vote crotch mahogany inlaid with contrasting burl walnut that is inlaid with decorative birds-eye maple.
 

nosivad_bor

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this might be the most cheapfuckery thing suggested in this thread. But at my parents old house we simply flipped over all the boards , power washed them and sanded them and the deck looked like new.

Just a suggestion I didn't see in the other posts.

Rob
 

bovw

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That's not cheapfuckery, it's frugal. Definately cheaper than the mahogany, burl walnut, birds-eye maple that I'd be afraid to spill a beer on (it would be a most beautiful deck on the other hand).
 

GregH

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nosivad_bor said:
this might be the most cheapfuckery thing suggested in this thread. But at my parents old house we simply flipped over all the boards , power washed them and sanded them and the deck looked like new.

Just a suggestion I didn't see in the other posts.

Rob

That's not as pretty as my idea.
 

garrett

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MarkP said:
Procell is one the best composites but I agree, it doesn't look or feel like wood. Then again the Procell deck will still be in good shape 10+ years down the road while the wood deck is beginning to decay. At the time they installed it Procell had a 50 year warranty. Appears they have gone to lifetime, virtually the same length of time as far as I'm concerned. Here in Colorado the sun and large thermal swings tear up wood in short order.

Ipe is similar to teak and will outlast most of us as the oils in the wood repel insects. it's also a very dense wood and will take years sun, rain and abuse. the cheap wood products found at Home Depot and Lowe's won't hold up to years of use. not even the low quality cedar that is being used comes close to the quality of Ipe.

the cost can be prohibitive, but if you are looking long term i'd highly suggest it.

here are a few pics of Ipe as they were installing it a month or so ago.
 

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Nomar

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Damn, the Ipe looks good!
I actually thought about flipping the boards but they were just nasty looking and the split ends/holes just weren't worth the effort. And they were pressure-treated 1993 boards. A big no-no 'round my house...
 

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I will say, however, for all the talk of the fake stuff....last Sunday we were at the new house our friends just built, and they used Trex or something similar and it was NICE! Smooth and well finished. Plus, their one-year-old baby boy could crawl around a little without us worrying about splinters!
 

garrett

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have you checked with any companies that sell recycled wood/timber? i wish i had the info handy, but there are a handful of businesses out there that sell quality wood from decommissioned buildings and structures. indoor and outdoor.
you just can't buy wood that compares to the quality of woods used 50+ years ago. the heartwood is much stronger as the trees were larger and older.

places like this:

http://www.vintagetimber.com/

check this place out in VA.

http://www.appalachianwoods.com/

most of these are for interiors, but i know there are outdoor products available.
 

garrett

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Roverlady said:
I will say, however, for all the talk of the fake stuff....last Sunday we were at the new house our friends just built, and they used Trex or something similar and it was NICE! Smooth and well finished. Plus, their one-year-old baby boy could crawl around a little without us worrying about splinters!

plastic decking just goes against my instinct of some sort. it would be like using plastic siding or indoor/outdoor carpeting in the backyard.
you can do all kinds of things with plastic decking to make it look good, but it's still plastic decking.
same goes for plastic fencing. it looks fine, but you can always tell its plastic from 5 feet away or 100 feet away.
to me it's like the people that want a 4,000 sf house on the 1/4 acre lot with shit construction (brick veneer, plastic siding, etc) and the Home Depot interior.........or their are the people that build a 2,000 sf house with crafted interiors and exteriors. Craftsman style homes don't really exist anymore. it's unfortunate in our disposable world. different strokes for different folks.
 

JohnK

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You have got to be kidding me. Why would you pour money into a house that only has a two-car garage? Find yourself a tire store that went belly up and buy the property. You'll have like 8 bays with lifts to work on your Rovers. You can remodel the office and customer waiting area for your family to live in.
 

Roverlady

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Garrett has a good point about the reclaimed wood...the same friends I mentioned bought two beams and a mantle piece from some place near Charlottesville. They are beautiful old pieces and SOLID!
 

kennith

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garrett said:
plastic decking just goes against my instinct of some sort. it would be like using plastic siding or indoor/outdoor carpeting in the backyard.
you can do all kinds of things with plastic decking to make it look good, but it's still plastic decking.
same goes for plastic fencing. it looks fine, but you can always tell its plastic from 5 feet away or 100 feet away.
to me it's like the people that want a 4,000 sf house on the 1/4 acre lot with shit construction (brick veneer, plastic siding, etc) and the Home Depot interior.........or their are the people that build a 2,000 sf house with crafted interiors and exteriors. Craftsman style homes don't really exist anymore. it's unfortunate in our disposable world. different strokes for different folks.

I agree completely. Do it once and do it right.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

bigred

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garrett said:
have you checked with any companies that sell recycled wood/timber? i wish i had the info handy, but there are a handful of businesses out there that sell quality wood from decommissioned buildings and structures. indoor and outdoor.
you just can't buy wood that compares to the quality of woods used 50+ years ago. the heartwood is much stronger as the trees were larger and older.

places like this:

http://www.vintagetimber.com/

check this place out in VA.

http://www.appalachianwoods.com/

most of these are for interiors, but i know there are outdoor products available.

I don't get on here much anymore, so fire off an email if you are looking to go the recycled route, and I'll try to track down some more info for you.

A local company is milling a bunch of 150 year old wood that they pulled out of a crib dam they took down on the Rappahannock River. It is apparently cool enough wood that they filmed an episode of the New Yankee workshop about it..