Gun Control: A Realistic Look

Jake

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Gun control as she is writing about is unconstitutional and will lead to either tyranny, insurrection or both. Not being paranoid, just realistic. A big step against the Bill of Rights. Don't want to seem harsh, but those of you who don't beleive tha are either dupes or agree with it. :banghead:
 

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Yes, and the mayor of Chicago is cited in articles discussing how we need to bans guns to prevent crimes. LOL

Chicago and Washington DC have extremely restrictive gun laws and high murder rates. It doesn't matter to libs. The answer is always more gun control.
 

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D Chapman said:
To Garrett, it was "unrealistic" in 1984, too.

Garrett dosent know dick about guns in the first place, much less about what's being talked about in this thread.

So now we need to be gun experts to talk about them? I didn't realize this. Do I need to own an AR, wear some sweet tactical gear or maybe post some pics of me being awesome with my guns to let people know how much I know about them?

Please school me on guns, ammo and Realtree. Enlighten me. Maybe then I will be able to make a more intelligent comments.

You didn't pass 8th grade English, so maybe you shouldn't type/speak.
 

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Garrett, when would be a good time to discuss the infringement of the 2nd Amendment? While the bill is being written? When it is in committee? After it has passed?
 

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RBBailey said:
Garrett, when would be a good time to discuss the infringement of the 2nd Amendment? While the bill is being written? When it is in committee? After it has passed?

It doesn't get written by one person. It's "her" draft. It should be discussed, but lets see where this is going before jumping to all kinds of conclusions.

It's like sentencing someone before it gets to jury.

I sure hope you were as outspoken against GW and the Patriot Act.....not to mention his many other infringements on our Constitution.

But I'm no expert on the Constitution, privacy, war or any of that mumbo jumbo, so I shouldn't speak up. My bad.
 
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garrett said:
So now we need to be gun experts to talk about them? I didn't realize this. Do I need to own an AR, wear some sweet tactical gear or maybe post some pics of me being awesome with my guns to let people know how much I know about them?

Please school me on guns, ammo and Realtree. Enlighten me. Maybe then I will be able to make a more intelligent comments.

You didn't pass 8th grade English, so maybe you shouldn't type/speak.

You wouldn't be able to identify what types of guns they banned in 1994 if they were sitting next to you with a big, red, arrow pointing to them. You're totally clueless.

Here is how clueless you are on the subject.

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Eh but let the NRA and fanatics whip everyone up into a frenzy to believe Obama is going to knock on your door and take your guns.

Where is anyone saying that [they] are going to come knocking on our doors and take our guns? That's not what's being discussed here. We're talking about a ban on not only guns, but accessories that go along with them, I.E. no longer available for sale. The guns we own are not going anywhere. But the future sale of these guns is what's in limbo. Even the rednecks understand that. But you don't. You don't have a clue. You didn't have a clue in 1994 and you don't have a clue today.

Sure, there is more to the purposed legislation, but I really can't see a registered gun owner license, or photo ID, ever being constitutional.

It's okay though, Garrett. You don't have to talk about it. Just because there is a thread here on Dweb does not mean you have to participate in it. No one was missing you. If you want to skool us on Black Helo's, cool. Obviously you know a lot about Black Helo's because they fly 5-miles from your house and you felt you had to mention that, so maybe you're an expert on Black Helo's. (Then again, I remember you telling me, with a straight face, that the side of the mtn opened up like a Bat Cave so AF1 could land at Mt. Weather on 9/11, lol). But you don't know dick about guns and you sure as shit have no clue about what legislators are trying to do about the gun laws. You just don't understand, and maybe you don't even really care. But to say there is not a cause for alarm is just plain not true.

You said this:

Garrett said:
It's good to be sure that your government is doing what's in the interest of the people and keeping them as honest as possible, but it's another to be paranoid that they are out to take away all your rights.

So soon do we forget about District of Columbia v. Heller
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-290.pdf

In case you do not understand, Garrett, and I'm sure you don't, this means that the Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, whether or not associated with a state militia. The scary part, for us, is that this was a 5-4 vote by the Supreme Court. 5 to 4. Do you understand this, Garrett? A 5 to 4 vote. If this was a 9-0 vote, or even a 8-1 vote, I would agree with you that folks are being paranoid about new gun laws, etc... But the vote was 5 to 4. This is a cause for alarm.

You in your eyes, all the rednecks were running out buying guns and camo in 2008 because Obama was elected President. See? You don't know dick about what's going on. It wasn't because Obama was elected. It was because there was a 5-4 vote in the Supreme Court and there was a very good chance Obama would be seating a new Justice which ultimately could swing that vote to a 4-5 vote if it ever came back up. That's a lot different from the Assault Weapons Ban talk going on today. People are buying guns, ammo, accessories, etc... now in fear of them becoming unavailable in the future.

Will there be a new ban on assault weapons? Who knows. You don't know. I don't know. The NRA does not know. No one knows. But it is possible. It's as possible today as it was in 1994. And to think that it's just paranoid rednecks out buying guns and camo is just plain wrong. Just look at the treads here on Dweb about who's buying these items. There's a preacher, dentist, doctor, mechanic, college students, VETs, the list goes on. Just because these people did not go to some Yankee school to get fucked in the ass as a child does not make them any less of an American as you are. These folks are not ignorant as to what's going on. What's happening today is real and it's frustrating. The folks buying guns today are sending a message.

But you don't care either way. So just take a backseat.
 

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I see Dan. This thread is just a circle jerk with "those in the know" only.

Those that don't have the keen gun skills you posses need not give an opinion. I get it Dan. But if that were the case you should eliminate yourself from previous and future discussions according to you.

Thing is I get to have an opinion on this too. Though you might not like it, but that's too bad. It doesn't matter what you think of me or my opinion.

No need for personal insults though. I mean when I need to get JUST the right shot of my wee wee to send off to the homely girl that works in a funeral home......I'll let ya know!
 
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garrett said:
I see Dan. This thread is just a circle jerk with "those in the know" only.

Those that don't have the keen gun skills you posses need not give an opinion. I get it Dan. But if that were the case you should eliminate yourself from previous and future discussions according to you.

Thing is I get to have an opinion on this too. Though you might not like it, but that's too bad. It doesn't matter what you think of me or my opinion.

No need for personal insults though. I mean when I need to get JUST the right shot of my wee wee to send off to the homely girl that works in a funeral home......I'll let ya know!

Guess you forgot about the photos you sent to your ex-stripper girlfriend, or the ones the yoga teacher had. I say "had", because others have them now. So keep bringing shit up form the past, winky.

You don't have an opinion, Garrett. You don't know what you're talking about because you refuse to educate yourself on what you're tiring to be a part of. It would be like me trying to provide useful information to someone building the back-end of a website. I don't know dick about it, thus my opinion on how it should work is worthless - just like your opinion on this thread.
 

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I And what is this "Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration"? Sounds like it may cost us as well.

Generally speaking what this means is that if the legislation goes into effect there is an acknowledgement that the ATF will need supplemental funding beyond it's current existing base budget to accomplish what Congress has directed. Some legislation that creates laws can be enforced with existing funding streams, what this does is indicate that the ATF likely doesn't have that capacity.

As a taxpayer, yeah, it's going to cost you at the end of the day since that's where they get their budget from.

Or they could sell guns to Mexican drug lords....
and charge us each a $200 stamp for everyone weapon that falls under the revised NFA standards (interpretation of the possible legislation)....
 

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No I remember those pics vividly. At least they were attractive women. The janitor you sent them to wasn't all too.....well.....anything. You could have done better.

See the thing is I am not trying to "provide" information. Where did I do that? I am just stating an opinion - my opinion. I can't do that? Damn.
 

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In all the gun debates, there has been little or no information, just opinion's, even at the governmental level. I can safely say this, the gunsmith who run's the shop where I take my guns to has been cleaned out his entire stock of AR and AK variant's, with most or all of the accessories that he had in stock. Dan, do you honestly think any of those who went on a spending spree are informed about that court case? Probably not and I don't think it's sending that clear of a message to the politicians. They (the politicians) are not concerned about us, the legal gun toting americans, they are doing whatever they can to get their 15 minutes with the rest of the morons and are not addressing the the true problem.

Bottom line is that the we are fucked and at some point there will be more laws that will make buying, owning and accessorizing any of the evil black guns a hassle for those who can do it legally.

So back to your girly fight with Garret over pic's...I say post all of them up
 

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Mongo said:
So back to your girly fight with Garret over pic's...I say post all of them up

I don't like seeing pics of myself really. You might, but..... I say go for it too! But Dan has to post up pics of the homely janitor from the funeral home. That sounds like it has the making of a 'Here Comes Honey Boo Boo' all over it!
 

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Mongo said:
Probably not and I don't think it's sending that clear of a message to the politicians. They (the politicians) are not concerned about us, the legal gun toting americans, they are doing whatever they can to get their 15 minutes with the rest of the morons and are not addressing the the true problem.

Bottom line is that the we are fucked and at some point there will be more laws that will make buying, owning and accessorizing any of the evil black guns a hassle for those who can do it legally.

I'd agree. But this is just an opinion Frank. Geeez. :thehand:
 
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garrett said:
No I remember those pics vividly. At least they were attractive women. The janitor you sent them to wasn't all too.....well.....anything. You could have done better.

Yeah, the ex-stripper was a real winner. Had the personality of a rock and the body of a woman who's popped out a few kids. I still kind of liked her though, she could drink beer like a champ.

And I don't know where you go "janitor" from. She worked for Manheim Auto Auction. She helped her niece clean the FH once or twice, but I think it was just a reason to come see me. That was a few years ago, though. Maybe she is a janitor now, don't know...