brian4d said:
So Republicans believe that a rape shouldn't be terminated? WTF does that even mean?
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So Republicans believe that a rape shouldn't be terminated? WTF does that even mean?
Mike_Rupp said:
You know damn well what I meant, abortions that are a product of rape shouldn't have been terminated because it was gods will.
So know I'm a mind reader? If you meant to write abortion why didn't you write that in the first place?
Mike_Rupp said:
Mike,
Do yo not remember the whole Richard Mourdock foot in mouth comment? I would have thought it was still fresh on everyone's mind. I guess it's true that humans have short memories.
brian4d said:
Their behavior is understandable. Neither side can afford to alter their position any more than is absolutely required, and the reason for this is the fact that there are two sides. Between them is a battleground, and because it requires neither soldiers nor weapons, it can remain in what appears to be perpetual stalemate.
That is the state they desire. It has to be. Between two actively opposing powers, and when one cannot surely defeat the other, there must exist a constant exchange of irrelevant ground. Be it called war or trade, the result is the same. Nothing much happens.
Not quickly, anyway. People with views that align with our current left always have one significant advantage, and eventually they win. It may not be readily observable, but over time they gain ground by fractions of an inch.
Nothing makes an average person more happy than giving away his power, and nothing makes a clever person more happy than taking it.
The more average people you have, the quicker it happens. The left's advantage is a simple matter of birth rate within a society of weaklings.
Cheers,
Kennith
brian4d said:
Yes, I do remember his deer in the headlights comment. These types of questions are designed to destroy a candidate and he fell right into it. He could have simply replied that he believes that every life has value and left it at that. Yet he got all nervous and started down a road that led to his demise.
It's like when a reporter asked Rubio how old the world is. It's a no win situation for a Republican. If he answers that it's 5B years old, he hurts himself with evangelical people and if he answers 3,000 or whatever years he comes off as an anti-science loon and hurts himself with the other side of the party. He attempted to split it down the middle and appeal to both sides, but he should have answered that the age of the earth is the least of our problems.
That little douchebag Stephanopoulos asked Romney a question about whether states have the right to ban contraception and he took the bait as well.
Republicans automatically have a harder time with reporters since they are all looking to damage their reputations. Politicians on the left hardly ever get asked a tough question since the media are all in the tank for them.
Take this video for instance:
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If Obama was a republican and he made this comment, this video would be plastered all over every news cast for days on end.
No, the meaning was completely different.knewsom said:
Namely, I spent some time arguing with my liberal friend about this issue and thought we were getting to some understanding. Then it turns out there wasn't one - the guy I considered reasonable and of an analytical mind would resort to empty liberal slogans.
So I gave up.
RBBailey said:
Im not claiming to be smarter than TJ. At the same time, I had to take a shitload of math and science in my field of study and dont consider myself a fool either.
Yes, in an optimal human-centric society a government should preserve basic rights, not establish them. As you pointed out with ze germans, this does not always happen because governents are run by people and people are flawed, some more so than others etc. etc...
However, if we are put in a situation/society where we are not placed on a pedestal above other creatures, our supposed rights are of little consequence to said creatures and are thus rendered meaningless. I.e. our rights only hold merit in the company of other humans. If we only have rights in the eyes of each other, wouldnt that mean that we bestow them upon each other for the sake of each other?
This is probably why our views dont sync.
Im not sure that anything "matters".
Millions of years from now, our sun will run out of gas, expand, and envelop the inner planets of our solar system. Unless we figure out a way to get off this rock and survive elsewhere, there isnt gonna be anything left of us other than some space probes and radio signals floating around.
In the mean time, I just try to be happy without infringing on the happiness of others.
RBBailey said:
God? Seriously?
I'll turn this over the George since he can tell it better than I can.
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Mike_Rupp said:
So are you saying loaded questions are the reason politicians appear extreme left or right? If you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen. Honesty is your best friend, no different than an innocent man being questioned about a murder. Don't lie, stay cool and collective and the statistics are on your side.
brian4d said:
That was my point, but it seems you are too wound up to read more than a sentence or two.
Mike_Rupp said:
No I read your whole post. If you're also saying the media throws softballs to the left I can't disagree with you. I'd like to think voters are smarter than the media gives them credit for.
I'd like to think that, too.brian4d said:
But they prove how incorrect my thinking is every election.
brian4d said:
I'd like to think that I'll be spending the rest of the evening with Cate Blanchett.
...And you know what? It's a more realistic thought.:rofl:
Cheers,
Kennith
brian4d said:
This link is from the '08 election, I've posted it before and I'm sure many have seen it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mm1KOBMg1Y8
I'd be willing to bet that the people in this video are in the upper 50% of electorate intelligence.
I weep for this country's future.
To everyone that has lost faith in the voting public:
The voter turnout for Obama in 2008 was 27 million more than Bush in 2000 or 10 million more than 2004. The question is how many more of those will we see voting in 2016? 1/2? 1/3? I believe voters in the above video will disappear never to vote again in their lifetime. This is just a hunch and might hold no water.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/turnout.php
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The voter turnout for Obama in 2008 was 27 million more than Bush in 2000 or 10 million more than 2004. The question is how many more of those will we see voting in 2016? 1/2? 1/3? I believe voters in the above video will disappear never to vote again in their lifetime. This is just a hunch and might hold no water.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/turnout.php
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Wow, the yelling gets old but Morgan is put in his place. What I don't understand is why the government thinks it would help by taking guns away from law abiding citizens? Seriously?! How much more backward thinking can it get?
Let me get this straight, Law abiding citizens get their names and street addresses posted all the map for everyone to see like we're the damn criminals. They can't post a map of the criminals addresses and guns because criminals don't register their guns, what a crock of shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyKofFih8Y
Let me get this straight, Law abiding citizens get their names and street addresses posted all the map for everyone to see like we're the damn criminals. They can't post a map of the criminals addresses and guns because criminals don't register their guns, what a crock of shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyKofFih8Y