Isn't the act itself a "glorious last stand"?
Someone relaying the facts of what happened does not change what happened. I understand there is some sensationalism in the reporting, but what is the alternative?
Not reporting it at all?
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Isn't the act itself a "glorious last stand"?
Someone relaying the facts of what happened does not change what happened. I understand there is some sensationalism in the reporting, but what is the alternative?
Not reporting it at all?
Yes, the M1 ejects the clip after the last round. I love the ping it makes.
I'm told the enemy would listen for the 'ping' to know when the shooter was out of ammo. Kinda like the next-to-last-round tracers the Army would load in m16 mags.
I have ~60 blocs in storage, waiting for the M1 to be finished. Most are as old as the rifle (mid 50's).
To be fair, I've made that comparison before to help people understand that semi-auto firearms are not machine guns.
People do believe that's what everyone is talking about; they think semi-auto means either burst fire or fully automatic. This isn't just a few people; it's tens of millions that believe that nonsense, and they're the ones screaming about this stuff.
The revolver example is very effective in illustrating that they only fire once per trigger pull. If I have to bend a definition to make them understand, so be it. It's a good enough example to do the job.
Cheers,
Kennith
A revolver isn't really a deficit in bad situations.
Even single actions still have their place, and you're only getting five rounds there if you have any sense at all.
You can get away with six in more modern offerings, but it's still not advised.
It's better to have that hammer over an empty chamber even with a modern design, and absolutely mandatory with traditional single action Army patterns; which I prefer.
Cheers,
Kennith
I'm pretty sure you can get 32 rnd mags...
That's how you get these goofy looking things:
IIRC, the '94 assault gun ban banned large pistol mags (just like >20rnd AR mags).
I've got some of those, but I bought them for that funky Kel-Tec Sub-2000 I never shoot.
If I'm not mistaken, they were originally designed for the Glock 18.
Cheers,
Kennith
"SOME" sensationalizing?
What planet are you on?
If they're going to report it, they should be responsible about it. They can't even get reports about BB guns right; and have to click-bait the headlines so bad that people flip the fuck out. Then, they keep going on and on and on, telling stories and brewing up hatred and copy-cats.
Fuck them. They're directly and solely responsible for so much that's wrong right now it makes me sick to think about it.
The alternative is knee-capping the media. They will do anything for advertising revenue. They must clean up their mess, or someone will eventually do it for them. If that happens, good riddance. They finally paid the price for their blood-soaked bank accounts.
They have driven us to the brink of nuclear war and revolution; they stir up shooters, crime, and cause panic every time a little flurry blows in. They ride the hell out of negativity and bullshit as hard as possible until the clicks and views back off a bit, then they're on to the fucking Kardashians.
...worse yet, people are too stupid to turn them off. They know that. Did you notice that "comments" have become "reactions" recently on many news aggregating sites, such as Yahoo? It's a more inflammatory word, and causes more poisonous argument.
They are masters of manipulation; and the few people they don't fool are drowned out by those they do.
Cheers,
Kennith
Isn't that the nature of any giant corporation in a capitalist society?
Isnt kneecapping the media the kind of shit that China and Russia do?
You can't have no media and have people live in ignorant bubbles, and you can't have a state-run media.
So what do you do?
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Since we're being technical let me explne this a bit better.
Ballah siad:
My point was technically no, many revolvers are sold as well. From all my years with guns and even basic gun knowledge from my CCP classes there are two major pistol or hangun classes. Sure you have single and double Derringers and others but they are few and far between.
To say handgun or pistol and assume it has a slide and magazine just doesn't cut it in my book. Therefore you have Revolvers and Semi-Auto handguns. That's why when posing the question to Eric I was very specific, Semi-Auto Handgun. Why? Because they look scary. Whew.
Ballah siad:
Err. Pretty much all handguns that are sold nowadays are semi-auto.
My point was technically no, many revolvers are sold as well. From all my years with guns and even basic gun knowledge from my CCP classes there are two major pistol or hangun classes. Sure you have single and double Derringers and others but they are few and far between.
To say handgun or pistol and assume it has a slide and magazine just doesn't cut it in my book. Therefore you have Revolvers and Semi-Auto handguns. That's why when posing the question to Eric I was very specific, Semi-Auto Handgun. Why? Because they look scary. Whew.
No. That's the nature of media these days. They're fucking addicts, and they don't care how much turmoil they start and perpetuate.
Of course it's the kind of thing China and Russia do; but that won't stop someone from physically making it happen.
Sooner or later they are going to be bitten; but there's a way around it.
1: License the damned journalists. If you don't have one, you can't present yourself as a journalist; and you can't be directly paid for journalism. Any article written by a licensed journalist presented as fact must also be presented with a visible graphic identifying the author as being so licensed. Articles written by a non-licensed individual will not present that graphic, and the difference would be immediately clear to even simpletons.
This is not too much to ask, and not at all unique among industries or even amendments.
2: Require them to have two independent and verifiable sources, and then enforce it. Don't have two, and publish an article as fact anyway? You go to resort prison for one year. Do it again and you go to pound-you-in-the-ass prison for five years. A third time and you're in for life.
3: Mandate that every step of the scientific method be illustrated as practiced with every article. You have to show your work. If you can't, you don't get to publish as fact. If you don't, and/or simply publish anyway, you go to resort prison for a year.
4: Require all stories published by licensed journalists to adhere to proper grammar rules. No more misleading headlines or text, as a result. Fail to do so in a report presented as fact, and you re-write the damned thing with a notice at the top. Fail to re-write it, and you're again in prison. It's a damned easy rule to follow.
5: Create a modern law illustrating that no work identifiable as journalism, licensed or not, can be suppressed or otherwise altered by any governing body. It can even be an amendment. Let the notifications and licenses do the work.
You can still write whatever the hell you want (licensed journalists, too, so long as they don't use the graphic on a story that doesn't follow the rules), but if it's to be presented as anything more than opinion, you'd bloody-well better have a license and that graphic in tow. The press is still free, but now the bullshit is tempered.
They're more dangerous than any gun ever made, and nobody is watching the watchers. They're supposed to be honest to a fault; but they're the biggest liars by manipulation and omission ever to walk the Earth.
Cheers,
Kennith
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...and this crap:
KID BUYS GUN AT WALMART, rubber dart
Do that, and you're executed immediately. I'll swing the axe if nobody else has the stomach for it.
Cheers,
Kennith
KID BUYS GUN AT WALMART, rubber dart
Do that, and you're executed immediately. I'll swing the axe if nobody else has the stomach for it.
Cheers,
Kennith
This is a good documentary that some might find interesting. I think you can find the entire doc on YouTube. It’s about an hour long.
Innocents Betrayed - The True Story of Gun Control
I spent 14 years in the military. It doesn’t matter how much logic there is in a conversation over this topic. People in the middle will sit and listen even if they don’t necessarily agree with you. The others are just looking for their next target to get into a heated debate. They have no intention of hearing what you or any has to say if it’s not in line with what they believe. I’m getting to old to bother with such people. I say let them die of a brain aneurysm from to much stress. I’m going to have fun with what life I have left.
Innocents Betrayed - The True Story of Gun Control
I spent 14 years in the military. It doesn’t matter how much logic there is in a conversation over this topic. People in the middle will sit and listen even if they don’t necessarily agree with you. The others are just looking for their next target to get into a heated debate. They have no intention of hearing what you or any has to say if it’s not in line with what they believe. I’m getting to old to bother with such people. I say let them die of a brain aneurysm from to much stress. I’m going to have fun with what life I have left.
That's not double-talk, either.
Civilian firearms were originally intended to protect the nation. I'd gladly give ground and likewise adopt a national registry and licensing in exchange for those laws above. If giving ground in regard to firearms stops the media madness, their purpose is served. They have protected the nation, if only as a bargaining chip.
The founders never told us how to use them to save the nation, after all. I believe this falls within their intent.
Cheers,
Kennith
Civilian firearms were originally intended to protect the nation. I'd gladly give ground and likewise adopt a national registry and licensing in exchange for those laws above. If giving ground in regard to firearms stops the media madness, their purpose is served. They have protected the nation, if only as a bargaining chip.
The founders never told us how to use them to save the nation, after all. I believe this falls within their intent.
Cheers,
Kennith
My view is that most people don't know shit about guns so they think banning this or that type of gun is going to stop the school shootings. That thought is pushed by the anti-gunners with the full knowledge that it won't - at which point they'll call for the ban of that gun. Then the next and the next. Their goal is to ban all guns. They wrap it around "just this type" to sound "reasonable." To the uninformed.
It would seem that most people just want to be told what to do in life; that's on both sides of the aisle since the authoritarian streak runs deep for the right as well as how they tout it on the left (afterall Facism and Communism really just come around the circle and meet on the other side).
Likewise most people seem to think paying taxes (as little as possible) and voting is enough to validate their role as an American citizen-without doing much beyond that for the nation, or their state, or even their community. That said to go further would be to dive into Starship Troopers (the book, not the movie) territory and beyond.
I like Kennith's proposed laws for journalism-that would make them like any other profession in many ways. One wonders if it would hurt the far right 'anti fake news' fake news more than the mainstream media that does much of what he describes, just now having to show the work better. Would certainly cut down on the editorials presented as factual journalism.
Look up the 1986 Miami FBI- Michael Platt /William Matix shooting. This was a game changer for us and a big reason why most agencies stepped away from revolvers.