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I still give John Lee my money when he has a product I want, they helped me so much 24 years ago....
LOL....a couple months ago I had a few cocktails and finally caved in and sent John $300 for a camo Kermit chair. I must admit, the chair is very comfortable.
 
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John Lee, who owns a business selling LR merchandise......... on a LR forum..........talking shit about/to LR owners, and then justifying it by insisting they would have never purchased anything from him anyway, then insisting he's the smartest person on the web. That's what I remember of the guy. Made for some interesting reading.

Discoweb may have been my favorite place on the web back then. I'd get home from work and couldn't wait to check on the madness. I probably went through 3 or 4 keyboards spitting coke/beer on them.
 
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Discoweb may have been my favorite place on the web back then. I'd get home from work and couldn't wait to check on the madness. I probably went through 3 or 4 keyboards spitting coke/beer on them.

From what I've read over the years, I feel like I missed out on quite a bit not getting into shadetree-ing rovers, and thus finding this place, till 2012 😁
 

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Why?

I used them just to make stuff even easier. That's why you got them, right?
My main reason was to make sure when venturing off alone that with lockers and a winch pretty sure we’d make it to the destination or back to camp. At least from a stuck criteria.
When with a group or at least one other vehicle became more adventurous with them.
 

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From what I've read over the years, I feel like I missed out on quite a bit not getting into shadetree-ing rovers, and thus finding this place, till 2012 😁
The Discoweb Lounge. And KVT and John Lee teasing others because they weren't invited into "the lounge".

Seeing a pic of John he seemed to have the little man/chihuahua syndrome. KYT came across as a more normal guy willing to call out those around him. Was ironic to see him rip off a lot of people and then disappear after telling so many what POS they were.

Seems there were three that ran the place. Who was the third?
 

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There was another group called DOR (Discovery Off Road). I think KVT started that one. Peter would remember DOR. I don't know of any others here on DW that were in DOR. Maybe nosivad_bor? That was way back in '99.
 
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Oh my gosh. I remember those days. Ho and John had a "presciption" for how every Rover should look and what mods were classy and what were not. When you veered from that, you were blasted. I got blasted for a handufl of my choices on my Rover, but it was fun to debate all day.

I filled in boredom at work on Discoweb for a couple hours at a pop sometimes gettting wrapped up in some debate. Good times. This was all back in the 2000-2003 time range. I think the "Krispy Kreme Challenge" threads are still in the archives somehwere. I was testing the EE spring retainers vs the RoverTym cones and I liked the cones better. That didn't go over well.
 
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There was another group called DOR (Discovery Off Road). I think KVT started that one. Peter would remember DOR. I don't know of any others here on DW that were in DOR. Maybe nosivad_bor? That was way back in '99.
Yes there was. Before and along with that, there was a lr-discovery yahoo group - which probably they started as well.
 

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Oh my gosh. I remember those days. Ho and John had a "presciption" for how every Rover should look and what mods were classy and what were not. When you veered from that, you were blasted. I got blasted for a handufl of my choices on my Rover, but it was fun to debate all day.

I filled in boredom at work on Discoweb for a couple hours at a pop sometimes gettting wrapped up in some debate. Good times. This was all back in the 2000-2003 time range. I think the "Krispy Kreme Challenge" threads are still in the archives somehwere. I was testing the EE spring retainers vs the RoverTym cones and I liked the cones better. That didn't go over well.
Yep. My rigs used the cones, straps and large bump stops. Worked great! People were already pushing 35s and 37s around that time maybe 04 or 05. We all just ignored their advice that anything over 235/85R16 was nonsense. Most of us were well beyond the camel cut. The dude from Lebanon built a cool rig.
 

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Oh my gosh. I remember those days. Ho and John had a "presciption" for how every Rover should look and what mods were classy and what were not. When you veered from that, you were blasted. I got blasted for a handufl of my choices on my Rover, but it was fun to debate all day.

I filled in boredom at work on Discoweb for a couple hours at a pop sometimes gettting wrapped up in some debate. Good times. This was all back in the 2000-2003 time range. I think the "Krispy Kreme Challenge" threads are still in the archives somehwere. I was testing the EE spring retainers vs the RoverTym cones and I liked the cones better. That didn't go over well.


3rd post in and there's John talking about cones vs retainers.
 

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Oh my gosh. I remember those days. Ho and John had a "presciption" for how every Rover should look and what mods were classy and what were not. When you veered from that, you were blasted. I got blasted for a handufl of my choices on my Rover, but it was fun to debate all day.
Kyle, Ho, John, and Axel covered pretty much every hard trail from Colorado to California (including Holy Cross, Pritchett Canyon, Rubicon, and Dusy Ershim). And they did it in their daily drivers.
Have you done it when you debated the build mods with them? Have you done it since?

I am happy that my big-wide-knobby-tire, lock-everything wheeling years were mostly before I bought my Discovery.
 

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Kyle, Ho, John, and Axel covered pretty much every hard trail from Colorado to California (including Holy Cross, Pritchett Canyon, Rubicon, and Dusy Ershim). And they did it in their daily drivers.
Have you done it when you debated the build mods with them? Have you done it since?

I am happy that my big-wide-knobby-tire, lock-everything wheeling years were mostly before I bought my Discovery.

33 x 10.5's and a 3" lift is not a Jeep with 40's that gets trailered everywhere and can't drive in a straight line. In fact, I think it drove better with the upgrades I had - RTE springs, castor corrected radius arms, trailing links, a-arm extension and GASP! SHOCK! Rancho adjustable shocks instead of OME"s or Bilsteins. The longer and wider footprint really felt stable and drove like a dream on the highway.

I never debated that they were wrong for their choices, I only debated that I liked my truck and my choices and that it worked for me. I don't like to wheel alone, the guys I went with all had 33's and more clearance. When I modded my truck I matched their general setups in terms of tires sizes and lifts to expand the trails I could access and complete. My Rover was my daily driver back then. I did many things midwest and east in my my Rover since I live out this way, and I drove to all of those and back. So, there was nothing at all limiting about my truck and my setup. A west coast trip was not in the cards for me back then - I couldn't get away that long.

Actually, come to think of it, I did do 32x9.5 tires when I first lifted the truck for the whole tall and skinny thing. I didn't like it and upgraded to the 33x10.5's. I don't remember the details of what pushed me over the edge for the upgrade.

I did go to Moab with my current Rover when it had 31's. I did Hell's Gate and it did fine and some other place that I had to take almost every bypass - not very fun. I did trailer it there, though. Not because of the 31's, but because I didn't want to trust a 20+ year old Disco to make it there and back.
 
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