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bri

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Kyle, Ho, John, and Axel covered pretty much every hard trail from Colorado to California (including Holy Cross, Pritchett Canyon, Rubicon, and Dusy Ershim). And they did it in their daily drivers.
Have you done it when you debated the build mods with them? Have you done it since?

I am happy that my big-wide-knobby-tire, lock-everything wheeling years were mostly before I bought my Discovery.
My disco was always my daily driver. Did some of those trails with OME lift and 235s, but if you keep on that setup, you will break axles, drive shafts, differential, easily bends track rods, drag link, trailing arms. Never did Rubicon. Most of the time after '05 I was wheeling alone or with other vehicle that were not Rovers, so I used notably more care. Always easier with a team of experienced rover people.

So then went ARB, GBR Axles/shafts, 4.11. Complete RTE and Rockware setup with 255s (not quite 35). I think in was 4-5" lift. It was far superior on any trail and was still decent on highway. Never trailored. Never saw another disco do significantly better with retained springs, as an example. Winch time reduced a lot, part lift/tires, part lockers. Nothing looked too out of place on that truck. Wheels still within the body. But some on 35s and 37s could definitely handle trails better, a few drove them to the trail and daily, but not many.

I bet holy cross would be much more difficult now. Haven't seen It for 8 yrs, but few colorado trails have not increased in difficulty. Holy cross has likely been significantly chewed up and eroded. But, only a guess.
 

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seizure at the keyboard?
No, but wife did call from hospital about then. Seizure is funny albeit, it wouldn't be if it were true. Thanks for your heart felt concern.... LMAO!

Should have been I had a really good chili relleno.
 
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You know, at our age that really ain't funny and I was dreading coming back to DW and finding something wrong.
 
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bri

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Driving style comment is silly. It's like saying the best possible tire on earth failed because you took the wrong line over a sharp pointy rock.

Yeah? It's like... you use your stuff in really hard conditions for 8 yrs and it broke... must be your "style".

Stock axles, diffs and other stuff will fail if you do PMs mentioned trails time over time. You will never convince me those daily drivers that PM mentioned would do those trails day in and day out as long as you have "driving style".

My diffs and axle breaks were not when I was using some "style". They were when they were least expected.

Putting in HD drive line gear just helped me keep cautious driving "style".

For hecks sake, if "style" is having 8 people stack tons of rocks under your car, having 4 people dangerously standing on your vehicle so you can get your stocker up rocker knocker, then fine, call me unstylish. LOL.
 

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Driving style comment is silly.
Is it?
Did some of those trails with OME lift and 235s, but if you keep on that setup, you will break axles, drive shafts, differential, easily bends track rods, drag link, trailing arms.
I kept on with that setup (smaller tires, though). Broke three CVs, nothing else. That's in close to 25 years of wheeling the same Disco.
 

bri

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Is it?

I kept on with that setup (smaller tires, though). Broke three CVs, nothing else. That's in close to 25 years of wheeling the same Disco.

Driving style on those CVs for sure. The rest was luck.
 

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This probably merits its own thread, but we're on page 56 of this one so why stop now? Ineos unveiled an upcoming smaller, electric 4x4 called the Fusilier. To be followed in 2028 by the convertible Cavalryman and the 2029 2-door Bugler. I made those last two up, but here's the photo and some coverage from the automotive press (link below). Discuss - the more off-topic, the better.

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Ineos blasted an email about the Fusilier. I like it, especially in hybrid version - it would make a nice commuter vehicle, to save the wear on its bigger brother.