Lucky8’s Project Discovery 3

WNYDiscoIIErik

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Any news on this?

I'm actually not too concerned about the lift, because mine is stock, but I am wondering if there are any aftermarket options for the air spring/shock assembly coming out. Arnott only has the front right now, but they told me they hoped to have rears sometime this year. The delphi OE stuff isn't too bad from england, but shipping for the average joe is kind of high.



We have the fronts shipped for $330 and the rears for $365
 
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Big knobby tires? If you consider 32" as big, then I feel bad for what you tell Tami is "big"

Don't get me wrong, the tires are just as shitty as the truck. Y'all took a truck that was designed to be quite on the highway and stuffed some knobby tires under it what make all kinds of roaring sounds. Take a 2004 Discovery for a ride, then jump into a 2005 LR3. The noise level is night and day, especially at highway speeds. Even the wind noise is minimal. In the LR3 you can actually talk on a cellphone and hear the other person clearly. Apparently that's not very important to the guys at Lucky 8. Big knobby tires are for the big boys. The more knobs, and the bigger the knobs, the better.

It's really not much different than taking a nice Honda Accord and putting one of those asshole exhaust systems on it. The Honda Accord is a nice car. When a stock Honda Accord is running you can barley hear it - it's nice a quite. It also rides nice and smooth on the road. Then you have these assholes who lower the car, put rubber band tires on, and loud exhausts. They've destroyed the ride and basically turned the car into something other than what it was designed for. They did not make it better, they made the car worse. They fucked the car up. What have they achieved by doing this other than looking like an asshole?

It's the same with this LR3. I get the Taxi Cab pin stripping. It's ridiculous looking but I can understand the branding. But everything else that has been done to this truck make you look like an asshole. The wheels are horrible, the tire choice is horrible, the sliders are horrible.... It looks like one of those Toyota's parked at the high school parking lot in Kentucky, all you need is a K40 steel whip CB antenna.

And to top everything off those tires are "C" rated. A "C" rated tire on a heavy ass LR3?! I bet that thing sways all over the road at highway speeds. Just wait until a winch bumper and winch go on that bad boy. Those tires are shit on that truck. You could have kept the more attractive stock wheels, put on a 285/60/18 Nitto Terra Grappler or Cooper tire, with an "E" rating, and had a tire that would be the same size and rode much better on the highway. Guess that's not hard core enough for you guys. Besides, what does it really matter? You're just going to tow the truck to and from the trails anyway.
 
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And WTF is this? Are those sliders bolted to the sill of the body?

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Seriously???

And was it too hard to coat them in black to match everything else? That's like coating a coil spring red. It just yells, "HEY EVERYBODY, LOOK AT ME!".
 
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WNYDiscoIIErik

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We aren't afraid to drive it either, but when you're going 1200 miles round trip and taking 2 trucks and 4 people, its more economical to trailer.

What's wrong with getting towed? Looks like your D1 being towed.
 
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We aren't afraid to drive it either, but when you're going 1200 miles round trip and taking 2 trucks and 4 people, its more economical to trailer.

Bullshit. That Ford is getting 6MPG towing like that and diesel cost more than gasoline. Driving two trucks will average more MPG's than one truck towing a heavy load.

And economical?? Seriously? Even if you did get better fuel mileage towing, which I seriously doubt you do, at what cost did this come? $7 or $8 grand for the trailer you guys have and another $15 grand for the truck? All to save $100 in gasoline?

What's wrong with getting towed? Looks like your D1 being towed.

You're right. The truck was rendered undriveable on the road to go to someplace like Texas, 2,000 miles away. Just like your LR3 is now. So it got towed. The following year, when I went back to Texas, I drove a Disco. Then I did it again the year after that. I learned something.

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Your creativity know no bounds. Im glad it drives great on the hi way.

See, you still don't get it. All the LR3 needs is some underbody protection, a little bit better tire, and a winch. That's all it needs. Steel wheels, lift kits, stickers, etc... are all fluff. You're only doing it because you can. If you wanted a truck to Kustomize to kill it on the trails with, why not just build a buggy?

Like a Glock pistol, the LR3 is a good platform right out of the box. Some people take their Glock and polish the barrel, add finger guards, lights, and fuck up the grip to make it more grippy. All they're doing is fucking up their Glock. All the Glock needs out-of-the-box is some steel sights. Other than that the Glock is a fantastic pistol. The LR3 is no rock crawler. There is nothing you're going to do to the LR3 to make it a rock crawler other than putting the body on another frame. So all this shit you're doing to the LR3 is pointless and the only thing you're achieving is fucking up your truck.

You're out of your league on this LR3. All you know how to do is bolt shit on or having something welded up that does not improve the truck. Nothing you have done to date makes the truck better. It's worse than it was before you started. Mods for the LR3 that would be creative, or out of bounds as you say, would be a software program that could override the traction control throttle override. Or a software override so the truck could remain in off-road height when traveling over 30MPH. Your solution to this is to remove the airbags and install springs which is the dumbest fucking idea I've ever heard of. The bags, and their load leveling ability, are one of the best features of the LR3. But you're not creative enough to figure this out so you do the only thing you know how to do to achieve your goal of stuffing the biggest, knobbiest, tires you can under a truck.
 
Bullshit. That Ford is getting 6MPG towing like that and diesel cost more than gasoline. Driving two trucks will average more MPG's than one truck towing a heavy load.

And economical?? Seriously? Even if you did get better fuel mileage towing, which I seriously doubt you do, at what cost did this come? $7 or $8 grand for the trailer you guys have and another $15 grand for the truck? All to save $100 in gasoline?

Your number are a tad off

The Dodge gets about 8-10 mpg towing
The P38 gets about 8-10 mpg
and now add the LR3 at 14mpg
It is cheaper to pull

Now add in the tire wear on 2 trucks

But the main reason is I can push the trucks harder then you would if it was your only way home. This is how I know what works and what will fail under heavy trail abuse. I am sure you will continue to mock me but next time you want to know if a part is good call DAP.
 

WNYDiscoIIErik

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See, you still don't get it. All the LR3 needs is some underbody protection, a little bit better tire, and a winch. That's all it needs. Steel wheels, lift kits, stickers, etc... are all fluff. You're only doing it because you can. If you wanted a truck to Kustomize to kill it on the trails with, why not just build a buggy?

Like a Glock pistol, the LR3 is a good platform right out of the box. Some people take their Glock and polish the barrel, add finger guards, lights, and fuck up the grip to make it more grippy. All they're doing is fucking up their Glock. All the Glock needs out-of-the-box is some steel sights. Other than that the Glock is a fantastic pistol. The LR3 is no rock crawler. There is nothing you're going to do to the LR3 to make it a rock crawler other than putting the body on another frame. So all this shit you're doing to the LR3 is pointless and the only thing you're achieving is fucking up your truck.

You're out of your league on this LR3. All you know how to do is bolt shit on or having something welded up that does not improve the truck. Nothing you have done to date makes the truck better. It's worse than it was before you started. Mods for the LR3 that would be creative, or out of bounds as you say, would be a software program that could override the traction control throttle override. Or a software override so the truck could remain in off-road height when traveling over 30MPH. Your solution to this is to remove the airbags and install springs which is the dumbest fucking idea I've ever heard of. The bags, and their load leveling ability, are one of the best features of the LR3. But you're not creative enough to figure this out so you do the only thing you know how to do to achieve your goal of stuffing the biggest, knobbiest, tires you can under a truck.


So, let me get this straight. All we know how to do is bolt stuff on, yet you're telling us all this truck needs is underbody protection and a winch? Sounds like bolt on stuff to me.

Sorry for being innovative and trying to keep the brand as progressive as possible. Still waiting on pictures of your LR3.

Send me some of your BBQ and Ill tell you how you don't know what you're doing and that the spices you use aren't necessary. You're ruining good meat. The meat was fine straight from the butcher.
 
. Mods for the LR3 that would be creative, or out of bounds as you say, would be a software program that could override the traction control throttle override. Or a software override so the truck could remain in off-road height when traveling over 30MPH.


Who do you think is working in the back ground with GAP to get this stuff done? FYI the over 30mph thing is already done. On your list you forgot a few things like manual contour to lock the diffs.

Your solution to this is to remove the airbags and install springs which is the dumbest fucking idea I've ever heard of. The bags, and their load leveling ability, are one of the best features of the LR3. But you're not creative enough to figure this out so you do the only thing you know how to do to achieve your goal of stuffing the biggest, knobbiest, tires you can under a truck.

Wrong again, I have said putting springs under an LR3 will will kill its off road abilities.
 
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Your number are a tad off

The Dodge gets about 8-10 mpg towing
The P38 gets about 8-10 mpg
and now add the LR3 at 14mpg
It is cheaper to pull

Now add in the tire wear on 2 trucks

So, you spent in excess of $23,000 (probably more than that) to save some miles per gallon? How is this economical? How does this make good business sense? If gas cost $3.60gal and you get 10MPG, that's well over 63,000 miles you'd have to drive just to break even on gas, much less maintenance. Sounds logical.

But that's besides the point. Who wants an LR3 for trail duty only? If you want an LR3 for trail duty only you've bought the wrong truck. I would imagine that your customers buy LR3 parts and drive their trucks on the road. Just a guess. So having a truck that is road worthy seems to me would be more beneficial than having an LR3 that only works well on the trail. SO where is your target audience? Do you even know?

Besides your business expertise which is really none of my business, I don't get what you're going after here. The truck looks like shit. It's built like shit. The truck is a turd, get it? If you think the truck is wonderful, then why are these wheels and these "sliders" not flying out the door? If what you're doing is so innovative and creative and the right way of doing things, how come no one will admit to buying these shitty products? I mean, rocket science?

But the main reason is I can push the trucks harder then you would if it was your only way home. This is how I know what works and what will fail under heavy trail abuse. I am sure you will continue to mock me but next time you want to know if a part is good call DAP.

What good parts are you offering here? The tires are shit and do not fit the truck. The wheels are shit and look like shit. I don't know much about these sliders, but if they bolt to the body they're shit as well. The only thing I see here is shit parts. I know you sell some good parts, but they're not here in this thread.

As far as needing good parts I know who to call. I've been doing this long enough to know A from B. But there are others who do not. There are people out there just getting into Rovers or off-road or camping who don't know the crap from the good stuff. At L8 you sell anything. You sell shit and you sell good quality parts. But to the novice buyer how will they know the difference? I told you years ago when you first started out, and I'll remind you again now, that selling cheap shitty parts will not get you anywhere. You'll loose more business than you'll gain.