i would just find a local retailer and buy from them, that way you don't have to worry about shipping cost and get to deal with them face to face.
OME or RTE?
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Steve, don't take this the wrong way but, sexy flexy AND lockers is a good thing! And I'm sure if your tire is not on the ground is isn't any help.
I know this has been kicked around enough but I will add my 2 cents anyway. I have no experience with RTE so will only speak to OME. I have had OME on all my trucks and can only say good things about them. I have had OME on my Disco and RR for 3+ years and see no sign of sag. I just put OME on my 130 and the have had no problems with sag with the added weight I carry in back. I have never had to worry about good customer service because I have not had a problem. Shop around and get the best price. Don't forget Steve and the guys over at BP www.britishpacific.com they have always come through on anything I need.
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dave_lucas said:Hi Walter,
No pimpin here, it is a plain and simple fact that EE has good service and that is worth a few extra dollars in my opinion.
Have John/Ho and I had our differences of opinion in the past? Yep
LOL! If you're lookin' for one-stop shopping, go with EE. If something is wrong, they'll fix it.
I just put a set of spring spacers/retainers on a client's truck and was impressed with the product. They didn't leave me much room for improvement
W/R/T shocks/springs I have OME/Woodhead on a Rangie, Bearmach/OME on another Rangie, and Rover Tym/Blingenstein on a Disco. If it tells you anything, the hybrid will wear Rover Tym springs with OME long-travel shocks (probably bought from EE under a pseudonym :flipoff2
.To a great extent, I wonder if shock absober selection isn't nearly as critical as spring selection.
Opinions-everybody's got one, you got to expect some of them to be different.
Walter said:
No you dumbass, the info is there so you can make a decision based on information from EE's website, then purchase from EE.
I can hardly believe that John and Ho put the information on their website so you can then take your business to Discount Cheapass Offroad Wholesale Parts Warehouse. Last time I checked, they weren't running a charity non-profit organization.
That you would consider studying their website and subsequently take your business to Discount Cheapass Offroad Wholesale Parts Warehouse in order to save a few bucks is pretty weak.
Dave,
There are a select small group of vendors that provide exceptional service that nobody can put a price on.
My first order from John was a set of ARB shackles. I was impressed when John asked me for my name and responded with "Oh, hi Craig, I recognize your name from Discoweb."
John could have blown me off since I was making such a small, insignificant purchase, but he took the time to chat with me.
That brief comment spoke volumes to me about how John and Ho do business, and nothing has changed, whether it be shackles or bumpers.
Another guy who impressed me was Bill Davis at Great Basin Rovers. I called him to inquire about the D2 CDL solenoid he used to sell. We chatted on the phone for about 45 minutes about the strengths of the solenoid unit and why it was superior to other electrical CDL devices available at the time.
The attention to detail and the thoughtfulness with which Bill explained the strengths and weaknesses of his product impressed me to no end. I subsequently purchased the solenoid from him.
Bottom line, buy from the vendors who are involved in the Rover community, and don't spend your money on some big corporate entity that will not remember your name the next time you call them to place an order.
There are a select small group of vendors that provide exceptional service that nobody can put a price on.
My first order from John was a set of ARB shackles. I was impressed when John asked me for my name and responded with "Oh, hi Craig, I recognize your name from Discoweb."
John could have blown me off since I was making such a small, insignificant purchase, but he took the time to chat with me.
That brief comment spoke volumes to me about how John and Ho do business, and nothing has changed, whether it be shackles or bumpers.
Another guy who impressed me was Bill Davis at Great Basin Rovers. I called him to inquire about the D2 CDL solenoid he used to sell. We chatted on the phone for about 45 minutes about the strengths of the solenoid unit and why it was superior to other electrical CDL devices available at the time.
The attention to detail and the thoughtfulness with which Bill explained the strengths and weaknesses of his product impressed me to no end. I subsequently purchased the solenoid from him.
Bottom line, buy from the vendors who are involved in the Rover community, and don't spend your money on some big corporate entity that will not remember your name the next time you call them to place an order.
So now we resort to name calling. That's nice.
Big man behind the computer screen, eh Koby?
Maybe they should password protect thier web-site so that evil information stealers like me couldn't look there?
For those of you that do run EE, great site and I do appreciate the information you give.
When I need something you have, I'll purchase it from you. So far you haven't had anything I've needed. Until then I'm just a future customer unless something turns me off to the whole experience.
Koby, I don't shop at the cheap ass places either, I am an educated consumer. EE isn't the only web site with enthuiasts and knowlege of Rovers. I hope you have a better day today.
Big man behind the computer screen, eh Koby?
Maybe they should password protect thier web-site so that evil information stealers like me couldn't look there?
For those of you that do run EE, great site and I do appreciate the information you give.
When I need something you have, I'll purchase it from you. So far you haven't had anything I've needed. Until then I'm just a future customer unless something turns me off to the whole experience.
Koby, I don't shop at the cheap ass places either, I am an educated consumer. EE isn't the only web site with enthuiasts and knowlege of Rovers. I hope you have a better day today.
Hmmm. I must be a dumbass too. I thought the info was there so that I could review the objective and subjective data/info, perhaps learn a thing or two, perhaps agree or disagree with the content, then compare that to other information/data that is in the public domain, and then make a decision based on my own subjective needs/requirements as to what my purchase should be and where it should take place.
Funny thing happened, I saw an Ivory soap commercial the other day and I'll be damned, I did not buy a bar of that soap. Can you fuckin believe that?
Yeah, Michael but that's not a relative comparison. No one is saying you have to buy every brand that EE sells. The info is there so you can compare their product lines to other product lines. That's fine, after reading their info and you decide you'd rather have RTE equipment, no problem. But after reading you decide nobody makes a better spring/shock combo than OME but then you buy from a discount warehouse, that's just wrong. And that's what Walter recommended.
What "discount warehouse" did I recommend? I have purposely NOT stated where I've made purchases because I didn't believe thats right. I will now.
OME shocks and damper: Nathan Crabtree at Discount (OMG!) Rovers.
Snorkel: British Pacific
Springs and Diff guards: RTE
Most of the other stuff I've sourced locally or fabricated myself.
Just because I've been to EE's site doesn't mean I have to buy there.
Get off it guys, all I said was shop around, you have alternatives.
Once again EE, great site.
OME shocks and damper: Nathan Crabtree at Discount (OMG!) Rovers.
Snorkel: British Pacific
Springs and Diff guards: RTE
Most of the other stuff I've sourced locally or fabricated myself.
Just because I've been to EE's site doesn't mean I have to buy there.
Get off it guys, all I said was shop around, you have alternatives.
Once again EE, great site.
D
D Chapman
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There must be a ton of cheap asses in America then. Anywhere you look, people look for the best price. Weater it's airline tickets, computers, vehicles, gas, funerals, camping gear, or what ever. Why is "Land Rover" parts any different? I'm all for supporting the "smaller guys", and 90% of the time I do. There are times when the smaller guys just cannot beat the deals at larger companys though i.e., warrenty/replacement service. I think I see what some of you are refering to about the "customer service". You value service over price. Thats cool. But what you are missing is the "service" you are so fond of can probley be found in you home town at a locally owned and operated shop. Then, on top of the service you receive, you keep you money you spend within the community. Again, you may spend a few more bucks locally, but face to face service has got to be better than phone to phone service.
EE has a nice site with a ton of information on the products they sell. I don't know where else on the net I can find a 1500 word essay on a coffee mug and why the 20.00 price is resonable. But, if a product is good, it will sell it's self.
EE knows what they have got to charge in order to keep their doors open.
EE has a nice site with a ton of information on the products they sell. I don't know where else on the net I can find a 1500 word essay on a coffee mug and why the 20.00 price is resonable. But, if a product is good, it will sell it's self.
EE knows what they have got to charge in order to keep their doors open.
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DiscoDino
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Fixed it for you!
P.S. All the vendors I named above have EXCELLENT service.
Nathan will even call on weekends and after hours to get you what you need. HIGHLY recommended!
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D Chapman
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?I think I see what some of you are refering to about the "customer service". You value service over price. Thats cool. But what you are missing is the "service" you are so fond of can probley be found in you home town at a locally owned and operated shop.?
I support local vendors when possible, but I would have to disagree with you on this.
Out here in the middle of the US (AKA BFE) there are very few shops that know anything about Land Rovers much less modifying them. Would your local vendor be able to tell you that you can do a 3? lift with OME and recomend the proper parts? Or would they say that OME only provides a 2? lift kit? Does you local vendor match the springs or will you be sitting uneven? My guess is that they are going to look at the OME catalog and tell you that you need xxx part that the catalog suggests.
Additionally supporting the vendors in the Rover community will allow them to grow and develop new products for us (EE lowered shock mounts/ retainers for example). Is your local business going to come out with new products or are they going to sell you whatever happens to be in the catalog?
For instance when I purchased my DII wayyyyy back in 2001 I went to my local 4x4 shop (considered the best in this area) and asked them about sliders, front bumper and a lift. First off they kept looking at Land cruiser parts, they said no one made a 3? lift or sliders and to top it off they tried to sell me a bumper from DI that would not have fit. I also tried calling a few others and they were worse than the first one I called.
Just a few of the reasons that I feel it is worth spending a few extra dollars buying from a Rover specific company that has experience.
?I think I see what some of you are refering to about the "customer service". You value service over price. Thats cool. But what you are missing is the "service" you are so fond of can probley be found in you home town at a locally owned and operated shop.?
I support local vendors when possible, but I would have to disagree with you on this.
Out here in the middle of the US (AKA BFE) there are very few shops that know anything about Land Rovers much less modifying them. Would your local vendor be able to tell you that you can do a 3? lift with OME and recomend the proper parts? Or would they say that OME only provides a 2? lift kit? Does you local vendor match the springs or will you be sitting uneven? My guess is that they are going to look at the OME catalog and tell you that you need xxx part that the catalog suggests.
Additionally supporting the vendors in the Rover community will allow them to grow and develop new products for us (EE lowered shock mounts/ retainers for example). Is your local business going to come out with new products or are they going to sell you whatever happens to be in the catalog?
For instance when I purchased my DII wayyyyy back in 2001 I went to my local 4x4 shop (considered the best in this area) and asked them about sliders, front bumper and a lift. First off they kept looking at Land cruiser parts, they said no one made a 3? lift or sliders and to top it off they tried to sell me a bumper from DI that would not have fit. I also tried calling a few others and they were worse than the first one I called.
Just a few of the reasons that I feel it is worth spending a few extra dollars buying from a Rover specific company that has experience.
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D Chapman
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D Chapman
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Dave, I know what your saying, and you are right. But, every wheeler needs recovery gear, tires, oil/lubes and filters, etc.... The local shops are good with this. Plus, even big ticket items like winches can be purchased from these local shops too. I just think it's better to keep the money in the community not only for your truck/car needs, but for anything.
That's a great explanation Koby!
Dave, I am supporting Rover specific discount warehouses err, shops.
Go to anyone of the 3 I listed above. That's all they do. Go to the resources page on this site for their contact information.
I don't usually buy from Atlantic British because thier prices are high for most stuff. Sometimes they surprize you though so they're always worth a check.
I see that EE also will sell Toyota parts.
Dave, I am supporting Rover specific discount warehouses err, shops.
Go to anyone of the 3 I listed above. That's all they do. Go to the resources page on this site for their contact information.
I don't usually buy from Atlantic British because thier prices are high for most stuff. Sometimes they surprize you though so they're always worth a check.
I see that EE also will sell Toyota parts.