D Chapman said:
I think you guys all miss th point here. The Rasta stuff is junk, basically. It's a supper nice fit making it a clean product. But, it serves a minimal purpose. Better than nothing, sure. But still junk.
I never said they were junk, I just said they were not as protective as the RoverSpecialites sliders.
D Chapman said:
The Nathan Woods off-rovering rover specialties hack jobs are junk, too. The slider looks totally out of place. You guys like to justify it because it protects and keep keep you off rocks.
I think they look pretty good aesthetically, but to each his own. And, yeah I particularly like them because they work. You have to remember that the LR3 doesn't have the ground clearance it could really use, so the increased protection qualities are of great value to those few of us who use these trucks on the trail. As Umberto has said, the lack of worthy alternatives increases their appeal.
D Chapman said:
1) The skid place it a scoop for all kids of goodies. Mud being the biggest pain in the ass. Mud and shell and rock are all going to get caught up on top of this pile of shit.
Snow and Mud accumulation and removal was given ample consideration in the design & testing process. There are cleanouts along the bottom of the plating and spray points for a power washer for this reason.
D Chapman said:
Also, it adds a PILE of weight to the already soft airbags. Combine the skid plate to your new front bumper, winch, gas tank skid, rear bumper and oversize spare tire and the air shocks are going to start going out......watch and see, it's getting close to time for this stuff to start happening. In addition, the air pump is now working harder to float your extra heavy tank down Rt. 66. It's going to burn up, blow lines, or catch on fire.....watch and see with time.
Possibly. But you are comparing these 100 pound sliders to the Rasta's which probably weigh 45-50 pounds installed, verses perhaps some new third alternative that is likely to be from steel and I would guess weighs at least 75 pounds or so. We are not talking about an excessive amount of weight. Simple option packages on the vehicle contribute far more than that. Heck, my personal body size contributes more than that compared to you!
D Chapman said:
2) You're connecting the body to the frame. Horrible idea. Vibrations are now being transfered through the truck making your new $50k ride sound like a D2.
Vibration conductance has actually not been an issue or complaint from ANY of our customers. Since you have never ridden in an LR3 with this product installed, your opinion is pure conjecture, and wrong. I won't say there is zero conductance, but any amount that there may be is inconsequential to the point of being unnoticeable. Simply putting on AT tires has a FAR more pronounced impact on road manners than these sliders.
D Chapman said:
3) Accessing the air pump. Self explanatory.
Protecting the pump, with removable plating....self explanatory.
Also, this design was not committed to until LR fixed the inital compressor issues. The amount of access needed for the compressors has been substantially reduced, and it's short work with a nut driver & socket set to unbolt these.
D Chapman said:
4) Besides the fact your laying a 5k+ pound truck onto a 1/4" thick piece of tube and expecting it not to dent, warp, or flex out of shape; you're adding leverage to the whole still area. Look at the cut away pic! What's there to give support to the slider if the truck is cramming the sill proctor into the side of the truck????? The two bolts on the back side of the skid plate???
Are you talking about the Rasta sill plates again? The RoverSpecialties rock sliders are designed differently from this.
D Chapman said:
5) Over all build quality. The things look like an 8th grade shop class welded them up. I'm not saying the welds are going to break, but I have to question the ability of the builders. These things are over $1200.00!!!! That's fucked up in it's self. It's a simple bend, come Lazar cutting, and assembly. TOPS these guys have 400.00 in materials after CNC machine time.
Well, in regards to the LR3 and RRS, there is nothing to compare them to, so I can't compare the build quality to another product. I think the product is extremely well made and proven to be durable. I know that there is far more material and labor cost into these products than what you have grossly underestimated.
D Chapman said:
A better design is coming at a cost below half of what these clowns charge.
That's AWESOME! I wholeheartedly welcome more products and options for the LR3.