rear trailing arms D1

[nosivad_bor]

Paul your problem is you sell on price, not value. Many people would rather buy US/European made and if you explain to them why that's a good value, even at a higher price many people will pay it.

I know it's too late to beat that drum for most of the aftermarket parts as they have already moved offshore. But for these boutique offroad goods I feel it's a disservice to promote 3rd world made products. You and all the other vendors have the right to sell these products and likewise I have the right to bring up as often as possible that these products are probably made in 3rd world country.

 

[D Chapman]

Why don't you guys support American vendors who sell products made in America? Rovertracks sells some damn nice links for $225.00 a set. RTE sells links for $275.00. Granted RTE will probably take forever to get you your shit, but Keith at RT gets stuff out the door very quickly.

 

[pdxrovermech]

i would rather buy american any day, but i had gift certificates so it would have been free. +1 to those prices being cheaper than the TF stuff via RN too.

 

[nosivad_bor]

rockware makes some too and are around $200 bucks I think.

rockware.net

 

[ptschram]

Paul your problem is you sell on price, not value. Many people would rather buy US/European made and if you explain to them why that's a good value, even at a higher price many people will pay it.

Too few buy on value. Try to mark something up too much and there's always somebody willing to slit their own throat to stab you in the back by cutting their prices to where I can't compete with them.

I've had more academic business principles illustrated in real world examples in the last two years than the past twenty.

Elasticity has become tangible.

 

[ptschram]

i would rather buy american any day, but i had gift certificates so it would have been free. +1 to those prices being cheaper than the TF stuff via RN too.

Everything is cheaper than RN.

While I have had nothing but great experiences with RN, their pricing is usually much higher than anyone else.

 

[no694terry]

all i got left to say about BF is he should atleast get a disclaimer up on his site or something. bumpers, skid plates, sliders, those are low risk items. maybe leave vital suspension parts to the pro's.

can't wait to see his line of snorkel's
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd128/blk905pt0/Snorkel.jpg

 

[nosivad_bor]

Too few buy on value. Try to mark something up too much and there's always somebody willing to slit their own throat to stab you in the back by cutting their prices to where I can't compete with them.

I've had more academic business principles illustrated in real world examples in the last two years than the past twenty.

Elasticity has become tangible.

Paul, all i am saying is you are underestimating yourself. You give out a lot of advice on the bbs , you should find a way to more effectively capture that value then selling parts at the lowest price, but if you are happy then keep on keepin on.

 

[ptschram]

Rob
I don'T disagree. Capturing dollars for that shy of a 900 line is the conundrum and I don't think would/could sell as much without it. I'm the anti-Will on the phone. LOL

 

[no694terry]

I put the arms in yesterday. I'll give him this, the length centered my tires nicely and put my pinion angle back to match the tc angle. but they didn't go in without a bit of work. I see now why TF bends there arms up near the frame, because when the bend is near the axle it intereferes with the mount and i had to do a lot of grinding just to get the arm up into the mount high enough to slip bolt through bushing and then more gringing so the arm could flex up. then i go to bolt up the frame side mount and that threaded rod isn't long enough, the nylon locking nut supplied is useless because the threaded don't reach the nylon. so i used lock-tite on it for now until i can think of something else.

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[D Chapman]

I can't believe you put that shit on your truck.

....actually, yes I can.

 

[rrc.swb]

dude... RETURN THEM

You are going to have an accident with those arms.

In order for the nut to be secure in place the thread MUST protrude through the nut at least two thread pitches.

You are running the risk of thread stripping.

 

[ArmyRover]

Honestly Terry, all bottorf bullshit aside, those things are junk. I'd pull them off and get something that fits the truck. Those are out right dangerous, don't know you at all but I don't want to read about your life story in a obituary column either.

 

[D Chapman]

Who cares about the bolt. If it's a Grade-5 the bolt will be fine. With 90% thread 3-threads will hold 100% of the rating. Course, the bolt is only as good as what it's welded to...

But he butt-welded tubing without using any sort of gusset. That's where the danger is. I suspect the first rock this Pennsyltuckey redneck encounters will rip the links apart and leave him stranded with a lot of other broken shit.

 

[no694terry]

guys i appreciate the concern but what i put on my truck isn't what i got in the mail. I had the arms pulled back apart, cleaned up, weld prepped and new welds put on by one of our certified welders. then i ground them all smooth to pretty them up a bit and then repainted them. at worst case the bolt he used is a regular carbon bolt and at 3/4" is still good for 8.8 kips a peice, far stonger than the mount they are attached to.

If i didn't work for a fabricator i would have returned them and waited 3 or more months for my money back but its not worth it to me, i learned a lesson and moved on. as far as the nuts i went over to the shop and got some high strength half nuts, locking washers and more lock-tite. this combo is shorter than the nylon locking nut so a thread or two will stick out of the end now. I'm pretty confident it will work out just fine.