Dif'rent strokes
I made my own snorkle a while ago, and I think it looks far better than either of them, though I will be making a new one shortly. The ARB is going to be a bit better on the highway, due to the intake setup. As well, it will provide more power off the line than the Mantec. That being said, both raise one's air intake above the water level, both can take a severe beating, and both help keep dust out of one's engine. Get the one you feel is more attractive. If you plan on deep wading, though, make sure to raise your breather tubes as high as the snorkle.
On the electrics, I myself am in the process of relocating the batteries and the engine compartment fusebox to the passenger cabin, along with their respective wires and multiplugs. In a while, I may look into some mods to the ignition system. The ECU also will be addressed as well. For most people, though, a simple can of spray lubricant will be enough. Odds are you might see 2-3 feet on a proper trail, but you have to go looking to find more than that.
On another note, when looking at pictures of "deep wading" rarely is it as deep as the picture might suggest, combinations of bow wave, water flow, and truck angle can make it look far deeper. Most things that will be deeper will be either flowing too fast or too soft on the bottem to cross. Driving around in floodwaters as a volunteer can be fun, but sometimes there's pretty nasty stuff in there.
Basically, just get what you find attractive, spray your electrics before getting wet, and use common sense. You will be fine.
Cheers,
Kennith
I made my own snorkle a while ago, and I think it looks far better than either of them, though I will be making a new one shortly. The ARB is going to be a bit better on the highway, due to the intake setup. As well, it will provide more power off the line than the Mantec. That being said, both raise one's air intake above the water level, both can take a severe beating, and both help keep dust out of one's engine. Get the one you feel is more attractive. If you plan on deep wading, though, make sure to raise your breather tubes as high as the snorkle.
On the electrics, I myself am in the process of relocating the batteries and the engine compartment fusebox to the passenger cabin, along with their respective wires and multiplugs. In a while, I may look into some mods to the ignition system. The ECU also will be addressed as well. For most people, though, a simple can of spray lubricant will be enough. Odds are you might see 2-3 feet on a proper trail, but you have to go looking to find more than that.
On another note, when looking at pictures of "deep wading" rarely is it as deep as the picture might suggest, combinations of bow wave, water flow, and truck angle can make it look far deeper. Most things that will be deeper will be either flowing too fast or too soft on the bottem to cross. Driving around in floodwaters as a volunteer can be fun, but sometimes there's pretty nasty stuff in there.
Basically, just get what you find attractive, spray your electrics before getting wet, and use common sense. You will be fine.
Cheers,
Kennith
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syoung
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Roca is still in business in Spain, but apparently not looking to export. The guy keeps emailing me about every six months claiming I owe him money too- strange. Bad bookkeeping over there I suppose. On the Disco, the Roca uses the stock airbox, you remove the horn to fit the flex tube which runs behind the fender. The fiberglass external part seems thick and durable- no wind noise and a cool accumulator/leaf prefilter in the base. I took the Roca off the Freelander because the Mantec was made to work with the Safety Devices rack that I went to- the stock rack was too high. The installation procedure for the Disco is here: http://www.formatc.org/disco/snorkel/
I heard from a friend in Minnesota that they had attached legislation to another environmental bill that bans the use of a snorkel on a four wheel drive vehicle. I've seen it from other sources, so I believe there may be something to it. I can't imagine that the wetlands are so damaged by four wheel drive vehicles with snorkels that it's necessary.
I heard from a friend in Minnesota that they had attached legislation to another environmental bill that bans the use of a snorkel on a four wheel drive vehicle. I've seen it from other sources, so I believe there may be something to it. I can't imagine that the wetlands are so damaged by four wheel drive vehicles with snorkels that it's necessary.
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billmallin
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I've found snorkels are like anything else... everyone has an opinion...
Which tires? Which Bumper? Which winch? Which roof rack? Do you wipe your ass front to back or back to front?
As far as functionality... I've smacked the dog shit out of my ARB more than once... it's fine. My buddy has the Mantec... besides it being ugly
, the coating is coming off.
What do YOU like?
Which tires? Which Bumper? Which winch? Which roof rack? Do you wipe your ass front to back or back to front?
As far as functionality... I've smacked the dog shit out of my ARB more than once... it's fine. My buddy has the Mantec... besides it being ugly
, the coating is coming off.What do YOU like?
steve becarful at MAR i hear Roca is looking for you and i know he is always packing heat.
sorry steve i had too....
sorry steve i had too....
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syoung
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the arb is rather large and unsitely.
mantec has a cleaner look, but i think the top is funky.
the roca looks real nice. anyone know the cost to put one of those on a disco?
mantec has a cleaner look, but i think the top is funky.
the roca looks real nice. anyone know the cost to put one of those on a disco?
steve i will be in a green disco with lineX on the rack and brush guards, so say hi and kick my as if you want, or have a drink and talk. see you there
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Sergei
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mkn-trx said:the arb is rather large and unsitely.
mantec has a cleaner look, but i think the top is funky.
the roca looks real nice. anyone know the cost to put one of those on a disco?
Its been priced at about 450-500 EUR.
John from ag4x4.com at some point tried to get deal on those to sell in states, but i never heard end of that story.
Too true! And the Mantek looks like a fuking roof vent from a textiles warehouse. That said, if you can screw upeither one on the trail then your not after the mall warrior look anyway.
Has anyone seen the rolled-over Disco? I think it's on the ARB site. The roof is smashed but the snorkel still stands tall! Thank You, LRW.
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syoung
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Justin- I'd like to see the Line-X coated stuff for sure- I had considered doing that too since my powdercoated stuff is cracking. Green Disco? That narrows it down to half the attendees... I'll be driving the Green Disco with the Roca snorkel.
Here's a pic of the Roca, as requested.
The installation process: http://www.formatc.org/disco/snorkel/
I'll be driving the Green Disco with the Roca snorkel.Here's a pic of the Roca, as requested.
The installation process: http://www.formatc.org/disco/snorkel/
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D Chapman
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Hmmm, maybe I will just get a piece of black drain pipe and run it threw the hood over the top of the truck.....That way it's expandable.
I like the fact the ARB dents rather than cracks/busts. Plus there is no finish to deal with over a matter of time.
I don't remember the Roca sticking out that far. I don't think that picture does it justice.
Does anyone know if TJM has a snorkel coming out for the Disco's?
I like the fact the ARB dents rather than cracks/busts. Plus there is no finish to deal with over a matter of time.
I don't remember the Roca sticking out that far. I don't think that picture does it justice.
Does anyone know if TJM has a snorkel coming out for the Disco's?
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syoung
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I've never looked at a mantec up close, so can't say for certain, but it looks like that "ugly" thing on it is a centrifugal precleaner. If so, then it's beautiful because a properly designed one will make your air filer last a lot longer.
If you frequent heavy equipment shops you'll see them selling Enginaire prefilters.
Here are some test reports on them (admittedly mfg tests, so read with a grain of salt).
If you frequent heavy equipment shops you'll see them selling Enginaire prefilters.
Here are some test reports on them (admittedly mfg tests, so read with a grain of salt).
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syoung
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You're right- the 'can' up top is a centrifugal separator... It has angled fins all around the base opening and some slots at the top of the tapered 'can' through which crap/dust/rain could exit. The only thing that comes to mind about that- I seriously doubt there is enough air velocity to really SPIN the intake air that much, if at all.
I have pictures of the inside of the separator- I'll get some stuff uploaded tonight if I can.
I have pictures of the inside of the separator- I'll get some stuff uploaded tonight if I can.
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Well, again, I don't know about the Mantec one, but the ones used on heavy eguipment like the link I gave, do spin. Even the little ones like what would be used on a L/R snorkle. It's the air being sucked in that spins them, so they have to be sized properly for the application.
If you're using a snorkle for dusty environments, that's exactly what you want on the end, not a scoop.
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