Storm prepairedness

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p m

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Tugela said:
Perhaps you meant west. 60 miles due east of NYC is Medford, Long Island.
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... and I meant exactly the opposite - that MREs are not the best food source/solution, at least in the U.S.
 
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Timmy!!!!!!! said:
I have a Pelican Case full of MREs that were given to me from Obama.
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I buy that. Free MREs are better than Coleman fuel and rice you'd have to buy.
 
Devildog01

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p m said:
... and I meant exactly the opposite - that MREs are not the best food source/solution, at least in the U.S.
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Well just so happens this thread is about prepairedness in the U.S. so please enlighten me on a better food source/solution in the U.S.
 
kennith

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Devildog01 said:
Well just so happens this thread is about prepairedness in the U.S. so please enlighten me on a better food source/solution in the U.S.
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MREs are too rich for a civilian stomach on short notice, and are packed with performance enhancers they just don't need. Moreover, it's not something you'd want to feed a kid. Extras are included to increase the morale of the soldier (or Marine. You get the point) that are simply added weight and bulk for a civilian.

Compounding the issue is humping them. Remember how many you carried? Enough for the mission. Try lugging around enough for two weeks. There goes all the room in your pack.

Hey, man, they are effective. I actually like them, and I do keep them around, but I'd not suggest them as a survival measure for most people. Shame you can never seem to get your hands on the damned beef frankfurter entree. That's my favorite. If you trade with another soldier who has the wheat crackers and spicy cheese spread, you are fucking squared away.:cool:

Edit: Here's the real kicker. You know how everyone creams their shorts over the McDonald's McRib? It's the exact same "rib" entree included in some MREs. :rofl: :rofl:

They don't actually last as long as people seem to think they do. Three years max in good conditions, and many on the market have already aged a bit, unless you buy from a manufacturer. If you do that, you pay through the nose for them. A better solution is the food supplied at outdoor stores. It's lighter and more compact.

I already told you a better food source: Rice, and anything you can scrounge up to toss in it.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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Paul Grant

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My wife and I have been moving towards self reliance for a number of years. We grow about 40% of the food we eat. We canned about 300 pounds of tomatoes this year. We froze and dehydrated hundreds of pounds of vegetables. We have a couple of hundred pounds of potatoes and root vegetables buried in sand for keeping over the winter. We have an enormous generator and about 50 gallons of gas on hand at all times excluding the gas in our two Rovers and two tractors. Our water comes from an underground spring and is gravity feed to out house. We never loose water supply. We heat with wood and have six cord seasoned, stacked and covered. We also have a rifle and a shotgun just in case, with plenty of ammo. We get eggs from our chickens, don't drink milk or eat meat. We have plenty of medical supplies for ourselves and our livestock.

We lost power last October in that freak snow storm. We were out for eight days and took it in stride with little change to our daily routine. This time it was only three days. The only thing I can think of that I would want more of is gasoline. Maybe up the standing supply to 100 gallons plus the roughly 60 gallons in out vehicles.
 
d1driver

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If you have the space and decide to stay, why eat MRE's when you buy everything these days in a can?
 
Devildog01

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kennith said:
MREs are too rich for a civilian stomach on short notice, and are packed with performance enhancers they just don't need. Moreover, it's not something you'd want to feed a kid. Extras are included to increase the morale of the soldier (or Marine. You get the point) that are simply added weight and bulk for a civilian.

Compounding the issue is humping them. Remember how many you carried? Enough for the mission. Try lugging around enough for two weeks. There goes all the room in your pack.

Hey, man, they are effective. I actually like them, and I do keep them around, but I'd not suggest them as a survival measure for most people. Shame you can never seem to get your hands on the damned beef frankfurter entree. That's my favorite. If you trade with another soldier who has the wheat crackers and spicy cheese spread, you are fucking squared away.:cool:

Edit: Here's the real kicker. You know how everyone creams their shorts over the McDonald's McRib? It's the exact same "rib" entree included in some MREs. :rofl: :rofl:

They don't actually last as long as people seem to think they do. Three years max in good conditions, and many on the market have already aged a bit, unless you buy from a manufacturer. If you do that, you pay through the nose for them. A better solution is the food supplied at outdoor stores. It's lighter and more compact.

I already told you a better food source: Rice, and anything you can scrounge up to toss in it.

Cheers,

Kennith
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Good point.Rice and beans = quick,easy and filling.
 
Tugela

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Paul Grant said:
My wife and I have been moving towards self reliance for a number of years. We grow about 40% of the food we eat. We canned about 300 pounds of tomatoes this year. We froze and dehydrated hundreds of pounds of vegetables. We have a couple of hundred pounds of potatoes and root vegetables buried in sand for keeping over the winter.
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Paul, that is awesome. The more people who do this kind of thing, the more other people will realize it's not that hard.
 
kennith

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Nomar said:
Which, coincidentally, is called the P-38! :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-38_can_opener
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I've got one of those, and it works very well. Still, if you've got a multi-tool, you've generally got a can opener. There are other ways to get into cans, but none of them are ideal.

I like the new cans they have with peel off tops. Everything except condensed soup can be had with those tops, and they are very convenient.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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apg

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Nomar said:
Which, coincidentally, is called the P-38!
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Too bad I can't afford the 4wd kind, but I've had one on my key ring for ages. The last time I went through security at a city courthouse locally, I casually threw the keys in the inspection cup before proceeding through the magnetometer, but the Barney Fife wannabe deputy declared it to be an "edged weapon" and wouldn't let me in with it. :rolleyes:

Cheers
 
mjbrox

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Paul Grant said:
My wife and I have been moving towards self reliance for a number of years. We grow about 40% of the food we eat. We canned about 300 pounds of tomatoes this year. We froze and dehydrated hundreds of pounds of vegetables. We have a couple of hundred pounds of potatoes and root vegetables buried in sand for keeping over the winter. We have an enormous generator and about 50 gallons of gas on hand at all times excluding the gas in our two Rovers and two tractors. Our water comes from an underground spring and is gravity feed to out house. We never loose water supply. We heat with wood and have six cord seasoned, stacked and covered. We also have a rifle and a shotgun just in case, with plenty of ammo. We get eggs from our chickens, don't drink milk or eat meat. We have plenty of medical supplies for ourselves and our livestock.

We lost power last October in that freak snow storm. We were out for eight days and took it in stride with little change to our daily routine. This time it was only three days. The only thing I can think of that I would want more of is gasoline. Maybe up the standing supply to 100 gallons plus the roughly 60 gallons in out vehicles.
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well done paul, well done.
 
mjbrox

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This thread has inspired me to do a couple of things.

First, I am planning on getting a propane tank at my house so that I can get a gas stove. This was in the plans anyway. Now that tank is going to be much bigger now that I know a about trifuel generators.

Next, I am going to get a water filter. There is a large pond near me, so if water goes out, at leaste I can go there.

I will also start storing more water.

If i lost power for two weeks my only realy concern would be losing the contents of my deep freeze
 
kennith

kennith

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mjbrox said:
This thread has inspired me to do a couple of things.

First, I am planning on getting a propane tank at my house so that I can get a gas stove. This was in the plans anyway. Now that tank is going to be much bigger now that I know a about trifuel generators.

Next, I am going to get a water filter. There is a large pond near me, so if water goes out, at leaste I can go there.

I will also start storing more water.

If i lost power for two weeks my only realy concern would be losing the contents of my deep freeze
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Here is the filter I most commonly use, and certainly my favorite for varied conditions:

http://www.katadyn.com/usen/katadyn...s-endurance-series-products/katadyn-pocket-1/

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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