Storm prepairedness

RBBailey

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I was pushed over the edge when I started buying the "night flashlights".

In fact, now that I have a night flashlight, the only thing left to make my journey to the dark side complete is a gas mask. But I would so have one if they sold it at Costco.
 

AU_88

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RBBailey said:
I was pushed over the edge when I started buying the "night flashlights".

In fact, now that I have a night flashlight, the only thing left to make my journey to the dark side complete is a gas mask. But I would so have one if they sold it at Costco.

I have one...
 

kennith

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Civilian masks are just as effective. They simply don't cover your whole face. They'll stop anything you will run into, be it smoke, incapacitating agents, or CS.

If you encounter something worse, you are already taking a long walk of a short pier. Time to find some new friends.:rofl:

The military filters aren't magic. You can get by with civilian models. If CS really bothers you, buy some goggles.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

toadermcgee

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capri_auto said:
Our dependence on fuel is sick and this put it into perspective.

I find this thought perplexing.

Do you find the rest of what make our normal life comfortable sick too? Is the grocery store full of a multitude of choices a bad thing? A house warm in the winter and cool in the summer something to be avoided?


People who can afford to install the most energy efficient appliances and energy producing devices (solar, wind, etc...) should but remember it takes $$ to do that. It is expensive to be poor.​
 

RBBailey

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kennith said:
Civilian masks are just as effective. They simply don't cover your whole face. They'll stop anything you will run into, be it smoke, incapacitating agents, or CS.

If you encounter something worse, you are already taking a long walk of a short pier. Time to find some new friends.:rofl:

The military filters aren't magic. You can get by with civilian models. If CS really bothers you, buy some goggles.

Cheers,

Kennith

Yeah, that's true... till you run into the skin melting, flesh eating chemicals; the stuff of nightmares that no respirator will defend against.
 

61rover

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I saw something I thought was pretty cool. It is a bladder for water that you put in your bathtub. When trouble is on the way, fill it up and it basicly fills the tub. It gives you a 100 gallons of clean drinking water. And it cost like 30 bucks.

http://www.waterbob.com/
 

az_max

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If the choice were death, I think I'd filter and drink as long as I knew how to remove bad things like chemicals. May need to distill or something.

Or if you do this maybe there is no worry.

http://www.lazydaypools.com/ecosmarte.htm

Open groundwater is the first thing contaminated by a NBC attack or flood. I'm not sure I'd trust a $19 filter to purify it enough. filtering then distilling may be enough.


61rover said:
I saw something I thought was pretty cool. It is a bladder for water that you put in your bathtub. When trouble is on the way, fill it up and it basicly fills the tub. It gives you a 100 gallons of clean drinking water. And it cost like 30 bucks.

http://www.waterbob.com/

That looks like a good alternative to open water sitting around. Like someone else said, a tub full of water would also be good for flushing if you lose water pressure.
 

bri

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I drink water that has sat around for a long time, having water in the tub or something really does not bother me all that much. I've had to drink from a beaver pond fairly recently and since I filtered it, I was not affected in the slightes. Not all that worried about virus and bacteria since those can easily be killed or filtered.

It's the chemicals and minerals in the pool that I would be most concerned about. Chemicals will be gone after a few days anyway. Distilling might be about the only thing to remove minerals, but I am far from expert, but will likely read up on it since I have about 600 gallons in my hot tub.

You actually do not really need to filter water. Its not a bad idea, especially if there are particulates, but boiling is still the only thing you need to do.

I really would not be worried about flushing at all, but I do not live in the city either.
 
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Greg H

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The OP asked what would you/did you do for this storm, not the end of civilization. Assuming you can shelter in place, mainly you need to be able to last until communication, electricity, gas, and grocery stores are restored. You have to determine how long that may be, and plan accordingly.

I was out of power for 6 days and 7 days respectfully last year during Irene and the freak snow storm but only 3 days this year after Sandy

My worst case scenario has been as ice storm with freezing temps for an extended time and no power.

This is what I have done, some is life style and some is prepping:

Heat: I heat with wood, and have since oil hit $4.35/gallon back in 2008. So I start each season with a full year’s supply, and hopefully the next couple of years as well. I like to let it season for at least one year preferably two. I laugh when I see people stocking up on firewood at the grocery store.

Power: All that wood is no good if I can’t run the furnace. So I have a small (2000 watt) Champion Inverter for overnight and during the day when all I want to do is keep the house warm. It’ll go for 9-10 hours on a gallon of gas. For my creature comforts I have a big Troy-Bilt 7550/11000 watt. That runs the whole house including the well pump; it just drinks a lot of gas (3/4 gallon/hr). I used it for a couple of hours each morning and again in the evening while cooking dinner, taking showers, (hot water comes off the wood boiler), and watching TV (dish TV). I also have a 600 watt pure sine inverter and a couple of deep discharge batteries, to run the wife’s sleep machine. It will also run the furnace for about 6 hours in a pinch, and they are easy to recharge on the way to work.

Fuel: When you hear a storm is coming, fill up the cars, your containers and the generators. I keep about 40 gallons on hand but cycle it through the power equipment and the cars so it’s never more than a couple of months old. With carefull rationing this will last me from 7 to 21 days not counting what I could get out of the cars.
Side note: Don’t wait until the storm hits to test out your generator. Exercise it regularly so you know it works.

Food: Nothing causes panic buying like the prediction of a storm. Like most we buy some items from week to week. Since I do have a means of keeping things cold I do buy some perishable items. By fall I usually have 30 to 100 lbs of venison in the freezer. We also have whatever we have canned over the summer. As pointed out in other posts there are a lot of non perishable inexpensive items that you can buy. Rice, pasta, canned sauce, oatmeal, soups. The list goes on and on.
For cooking we have the propane stove from our camping gear, the propane grill and two 20 lb bottles.
Yes, I do have a 2 weeks supply of MRE’s in the basement. No, they are not very portable. Yes, they do keep a long time. Again I cycle them through so they are never really old. I use them for hunting, camping, and keep a few in each car. They are a last resort; if everything else were gone we could stretch things out for another two weeks.

This has served me well for the last three storms. No one really thought we would ever be out of power for days even once let alone three different times!!
We were warm, feed, washed, and entertained, while others were sitting in the dark, or going to relatives and hotels.

Now the Zombie Apocalypse is another matter………
 
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kennith

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RBBailey said:
Yeah, that's true... till you run into the skin melting, flesh eating chemicals; the stuff of nightmares that no respirator will defend against.

That's what I meant by "something else". You're really in a bad way if you encounter something like that. It's not exactly common.

Even so, civilian gear can be very effective. Durable HazMat suits work very well. MOPP gear is a royal pain in the ass.

Cheers,

Kennith