The Kooks are Back

emmodg

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Daniel - Pleas tell me you don't support the rebel who so eloquently displayed his "people's" plight in that news clip.

These guys were frustrated and bored rednecks just looking for something to dress in their camo and use their cool new "tactical" kit! Waste of time. Waste of money. Waste of resources. For what?
 

stu454

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Why are they all fat?

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discostew

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I bet that fat boy sings a different tune when its a Federal Rifle he's singing into, instead of that camera. I would advise him not to say "GET SOME" when he's headed to the showers in lock up. Its hard to fight in flip flops.

Now I just read that they demanded that federal land be turned over to ranchers. I'm thinking if there just going to give the shit away I'm a damn rancher now.
 

chris snell

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The craziest thing is that none of these guys will ever legally own a gun again. Surely they knew that going into this.
 

1920SF

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The overhead video is pretty interesting; doesn't really confirm one side's perspective over the other though. The antis are all saying he was shot in the gut first and thats why his hands dropped to his side, the LE folks are all saying he reached to his waist. We'll see what ballistics says I guess.
 

discostew

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The overhead video is pretty interesting; doesn't really confirm one side's perspective over the other though. The antis are all saying he was shot in the gut first and thats why his hands dropped to his side, the LE folks are all saying he reached to his waist. We'll see what ballistics says I guess.

I watched it. They say he reached into his jacket twice and there was a 9mm in there. He damn near hit a guy when he went off into the snow bank. What Chris said is going to bother these clowns. Never being able to own a firearm again.
 

SGaynor

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He went to draw and got shot.

I saw comments by folks on various websites saying how he was shot in the back, gut, just murdered.

That makes absolutely no sense when you consider that right after they shot Fincum, the LEOs spent 10 minutes using flashbangs and non-lethal rounds (bean bags with pepper spray) on the vehicle to get the other occupants out without killing them. Those occupants were armed, the FBI/OSP could have shot that truck up like swiss cheese and been perfectly justified (he almost hit an FBI agent - that justifies deadly force).

So why "murder" one guy, and then take pains to not kill the rest?

ETA: I do find it funny how the Bundys had all that tough talk about fighting the gov't, etc., but when confronted, folded like a cheap tent downwind of a fart.
 

emmodg

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I have NO sympathy for this individual. Selfish mother-f'er who put his own wants and demands, and needs over others. These clowns are not "fighting" for "rights" - what they did was for themselves. Don't make the mistake of thinking otherwise.

The idiot who got shot and killed was a father to ELEVEN children and he's left them for what? He "sacrificed" nothing. He left his kids fatherless for his own selfish and misguided desire to play "patriot rancher".

"Why are you fatherless? Because your dad chose play 'outlaw for the people' and got his narrow ass shot!"
 

JohnB

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Funny thing this news has made more air time nationally than it has local PDX. No one gives a fuck about country bumkins who want to graze cattle.


No one around here even eats meat.
 

emmodg

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Funny thing this news has made more air time nationally than it has local PDX. No one gives a fuck about country bumkins who want to graze cattle.


No one around here even eats meat.

No one cares!!!??? We should all care! These men are patriots who stand for the values that we so casually brush off in our now oh-so-common apathy-filled lives! These men guard against Obama's blood thirst for our guns and our land! Just look at all the guns we can longer have! There's the......well you know...the.... Oh and now we can't get a......you know...one of those....well never mind! He's out to get our everything! And dammit, these men have spent their time doing what we should all be doing as red-blooded Americans! That is to exercise our right to wear camo and coyote brown clothing, put on that Velcro-laden operator's baseball cap, grab the weapon that we somehow still have even though Obama is after our guns and and speak gibberish to a tV camera while grilling! Dammit! That's what the NRA would want and you know they speak for our founding fathers! So here's to all the kooks out in the middle of nowhere! Fight on you over-weight patriots festooned in camo and cowboy hats! Fight on!
 

bri

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The overhead video is pretty interesting; doesn't really confirm one side's perspective over the other though. The antis are all saying he was shot in the gut first and thats why his hands dropped to his side, the LE folks are all saying he reached to his waist. We'll see what ballistics says I guess.

I agree.
 

bri

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I have NO sympathy for this individual. Selfish mother-f'er who put his own wants and demands, and needs over others. These clowns are not "fighting" for "rights" - what they did was for themselves. Don't make the mistake of thinking otherwise.

The idiot who got shot and killed was a father to ELEVEN children and he's left them for what? He "sacrificed" nothing. He left his kids fatherless for his own selfish and misguided desire to play "patriot rancher".

"Why are you fatherless? Because your dad chose play 'outlaw for the people' and got his narrow ass shot!"

From some of the statements from the family it sounds like they don't give a rats ass about your sympathy and they are standing behind LaVoy.

When I know a bit more, maybe I won't have any sympathy, but right now I have some for him and his family. I can plead ignorance on a lot though, I only know a bit about the whole situation, but enough to know what I would have never joined their cause.
 

discostew

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I saw a couple overhead videos. One of them was about 36 min long and the quality was a little better. He tried to get into his pocket twice. First time it looked like he decided against it. Second time he was going for it I think. That's when he got shot. He tried to run up to the tree line and was surprised that they had men in there. That's when he started digging in his coat.