Using "Terrorist Watchlist" as part of gun purchase check.

knewsom

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Eric N. said:
Sure, why not.. Then if they go back and hook up with their buddies and start planning to kill people we can just blow them up or shoot them and save a bunch of tax payer money. I'm sure you are talking about the "Gitmo" folks and some of them have been let go only to be found plotting terror and killed in the process. At least that's what I read a while ago. We sure shouldn't be brining them over here though..

Well no, it'd be silly to release them in our own country... I imagine we've hung onto a number of them for, erm, "enhanced interrogation".
 

Eric N.

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knewsom said:
Well no, it'd be silly to release them in our own country... I imagine we've hung onto a number of them for, erm, "enhanced interrogation".


I didn't mean let them go free over here. I meant we shouldn't be bringing them and locking them up over here in Alexandria or anywhere in the US for that matter.

If they haven't given anything up by now then they either don't know anything or they aren't ever going to talk..
 

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Eric N. said:
I didn't mean let them go free over here. I meant we shouldn't be bringing them and locking them up over here in Alexandria or anywhere in the US for that matter.

If they haven't given anything up by now then they either don't know anything or they aren't ever going to talk..

100% agreed.
 

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Andrew Homan said:
Nothing better happen as you shouldn't even have a court date.


maybe, but should you really need to use lethal force to stop someone in the middle of that? The idea is to stop it and let the law handle it, not play executioner. Though it would take a lot of self control to not get trigger happy and vengeful.
 

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robertf said:
maybe, but should you really need to use lethal force to stop someone in the middle of that? The idea is to stop it and let the law handle it, not play executioner. Though it would take a lot of self control to not get trigger happy and vengeful.

also agreed. A buddy of mine stopped a rape with nothing more than a 2x4 and a big voice.
 

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robertf said:
maybe, but should you really need to use lethal force to stop someone in the middle of that? The idea is to stop it and let the law handle it, not play executioner. Though it would take a lot of self control to not get trigger happy and vengeful.

Too bad the law too often gives sex offenders a slap on the wrist. I would shoot a rapist and sleep well at night.
 

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X2, actually I would do it and then have a meal without issues


Our problem is too many laws are twisted to protect the scumbag.

Why do I need to be reactive when I can certainly be proactive? , I mean if you break into my house ( gun or no gun ) it should be over with no consecuences.

Why the need to justify the presence of a scumbag at my house after is dead?


sideview said:
Too bad the law too often gives sex offenders a slap on the wrist. I would shoot a rapist and sleep well at night.
 

robertf

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you guys have been watching too much Justified.

stop the immediate threat, let the same law that allows you to own firearms deal with the rest.
 

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robertf said:
you guys have been watching too much Justified.

stop the immediate threat, let the same law that allows you to own firearms deal with the rest.

I have real-world experience. The law gave the offender a month in jail for assault at knife point, he then went on to assault his 12-yr-old niece.
 

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And while we're at it, you never, ever 'shoot to kill'. Or at the very least you don't say that to anyone, especially the cops.

You shoot to stop the threat. If you have to kill them to stop the threat, then so be it. Go home and sleep like a baby after a good meal.

After the adrenalin dump wears off.
 
stu454 said:
And while we're at it, you never, ever 'shoot to kill'. Or at the very least you don't say that to anyone, especially the cops.

You shoot to stop the threat. If you have to kill them to stop the threat, then so be it. Go home and sleep like a baby after a good meal.

After the adrenalin dump wears off.

Sounds like a good time to shut up and wait for counsel.
 

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Specially don't kill them with a precise round between their eyes, and if you do that , make sure you empty the mag in a random pattern , so you can say " I was in such fear my finger kept pulling the trigger " immediately followed by " I need to call my lawyer " ;-)
 

Eric N.

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robertf said:
maybe, but should you really need to use lethal force to stop someone in the middle of that? The idea is to stop it and let the law handle it, not play executioner. Though it would take a lot of self control to not get trigger happy and vengeful.


Ok, this was taken the wrong way. I was talking about criminals committing their crimes at gun point. Andrew made the commit about how law abiding people should have guns so that the terrosist don't pull out theirs. I added some other criminals. If some one is committing a crime at gun point I think it is safe to say there is a pretty good chance that your going to have to use deadly force to stop it. Once the gun is out and pointing at the victim and you show up and tell the person to stop ( or whatever ) I'm pretty sure that the gun is going to get pointed at you as well.. Maybe the person runs off but, maybe not. Then what? Do you shoot, do you get shot, do you run off and call the police hoping they get there in time, or do you leave the victim to their own fate and pretend you never saw anything? Your choice and I hope that you make the correct one.
 
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Eric N.

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Rugbier said:
Specially don't kill them with a precise round between their eyes, and if you do that , make sure you empty the mag in a random pattern , so you can say " I was in such fear my finger kept pulling the trigger " immediately followed by " I need to call my lawyer " ;-)


If there is a person pointing a gun at me and is going to kill me, I'm going to drop the person as fast as I can and if I'm a good shot and can get one off that hits him right between the eyes and drops him then so be it. That's why I go to the range and practice.