why are they selling so hard? what are they really selling?

[Drillbit]

Wasn't it Western Kentucky? If it was Eastern Kentucky, they either wanted him found, or it was suicide (!) otherwise, they would have left the body in a coal mine!

No it was eastern Ky, clay county I think. If the moron would have waited a few months before killing himself after getting a huge amount of new insurance he would have probably got away with it as killing "revenuers" in eastern ky is a long stand tradition.

 

[jim-00-4.6]

I don't do Flash, since Flash is for homos.
That means I can't see the form.

more to the point, good luck not answering ANY QUESTION THEY ASK ON THAT FORM:



Title 13

Sec. 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers

(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.

(b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500. (c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body.

 

[JohnB]

No it was eastern Ky, clay county I think. If the moron would have waited a few months before killing himself after getting a huge amount of new insurance he would have probably got away with it as killing "revenuers" in eastern ky is a long stand tradition.

They can't read anyway

 

[jhmover]

I don't do Flash, since Flash is for homos.
That means I can't see the form.

more to the point, good luck not answering ANY QUESTION THEY ASK ON THAT FORM:



Title 13

Sec. 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers

(a) shall be fined not more than $100.

Would be worth $100 to tell some Acorn assshole to go fuck himself.

 

[RRCNicky]

DING DING DING DING DING DING DING! WE have a WINNER! That's pretty much EXACTLY why it's so expensive. :rofl:

And Thom, I'm not giving my guns to anyone. Despite what you may have heard, most Democrats are in favor of the second amendment.

Yep. Don't eat what Rush and Bill and Glenn feed you. Since there isn't a middle anymore, I vote Democrat 99.9% of the time and not only own 2 very gas guzzling Rovers but can't wait for my local armoury to get the SCAR civvy assault rifle in stock...

 

[stu454]

I've got to ask, and with respect: How can a fan of guns stick with the Democrats? It's kind of like a gay guy voting for Palin.

There are some blue dogs that are pro 2nd amendment, but as a whole the party seems to be no friend to gun owners.

No flame, just wondering.

 

[knewsom]

I think a lot of the perception people have of democrats has more to do with what other people say about us, rather than what we do and what we actually want. Yes, the Clinton assault-weapon ban, and all, but who was in power, congressionally, in 1994? Oh yeah - Republicans. The problem with the gun issue is that one party seems to say they want ZERO regulation, and the other says they want common sense regulation. I think most people don't want felons to be able to buy guns, and do want people to have a background check before purchasing - at least, I do... I want to make it harder for criminals to arm up, without making it incredibly difficult for ordinary people. The trouble is, there are SOME Democrats that want them banned altogether, and part of the reason they have support is because of irresponsible gun owners and accidental deaths/rampages.

The other thing is, the Democratic platform otherwise is far more along the lines of what I want to see done, and the more pro-gun members of the party there are, the less likely we'll see our second-amendment rights infringed upon, because they will be forced to represent their constituency.

 

[discopedro]

I think a lot of the perception people have of democrats has more to do with what other people say about us, rather than what we do and what we actually want. Yes, the Clinton assault-weapon ban, and all, but who was in power, congressionally, in 1994? Oh yeah - Republicans. The problem with the gun issue is that one party seems to say they want ZERO regulation, and the other says they want common sense regulation. I think most people don't want felons to be able to buy guns, and do want people to have a background check before purchasing - at least, I do... I want to make it harder for criminals to arm up, without making it incredibly difficult for ordinary people. The trouble is, there are SOME Democrats that want them banned altogether, and part of the reason they have support is because of irresponsible gun owners and accidental deaths/rampages.

The other thing is, the Democratic platform otherwise is far more along the lines of what I want to see done, and the more pro-gun members of the party there are, the less likely we'll see our second-amendment rights infringed upon, because they will be forced to represent their constituency.

knewsome, the problems seems to be they that pro gun dems are way in the minority and the pro gun dems that are in congress would give up their position fo a little money. That is a big problem on both sides of the aisle, people giving of their principle for some money.

 

[knewsom]

Pedro, I think there are a lot more pro-gun dems than you think. Many are in favor of common sense regulation, but still pro-second amendment. ...but anytime anybody votes in favor of ANY sort of gun regulation the right-wing lobby gets whipped into a frenzy and crucifies anyone who supported it, even if it's a pretty basic regulation that doesn't infringe on our rights.

 

[discopedro]

But why make more laws instead enforcing the one we already have?

 

[knewsom]

*shrug* some laws are too difficult to enforce, others are less so. Sometimes there are also loopholes in laws that are unenforceable. It is also sometimes something that is important to constituents. This is why I think firearm education is so incredibly important. Personally, I'd like to see free (but not mandatory) safety and basic usage courses offered by local PD throughout the country.

 

[noee]

Would be worth $100 to tell some Acorn assshole to go fuck himself.

We got to do it for free already. Two of our neighbors did too. She showed up early last year -- twice. I caught her the first day sitting in her car in my drive, next to the house, fiddling with a GPS. I politely asked her to leave my property immediately after a little conversation about who she "worked" for. She then handed me a little paper with some gibberish about rules and whatnot.

Then, the very next day, my wife and son caught her sneaking up my driveway with her clipboard and GPS. My wife asked her to please leave our property and so she got in her car and proceeded to drive up our second drive, to my workshop and she started nosing around up there. Good thing I wasn't home that day, I think I might have gotten a little upset.

Then, she proceeded further up our road onto our neighbor's property where she was intercepted by our neighbor, who is not one to mince words when it comes to strangers on the mountain, nosing around, ignoring the polite requests of her neighbors.

Not once did this person knock on the door and identify herself and ask permission or in any way whatsoever engage any of us. This is just simply not the way things are done and if anyone has lived in a rural area for any length of time, they know this. It goes beyond common courtesy. It is a measure of respect. In my limited existence, I have found it unwise to disrespect people who choose to live 1 or 2 miles up into the hills on an unmarked road.

 

[discopedro]

I've seen them out in Vegas doing their gps thing while I was working. I guess from what she said they're just mapping out neighborhoods, why they would want the exact gps location of apt bldgs? Don't really know but it seems hinky. Could always go to a utility co and ask for a list of residential users.

 

[stu454]

I think a lot of the perception people have of democrats has more to do with what other people say about us, rather than what we do and what we actually want. Yes, the Clinton assault-weapon ban, and all, but who was in power, congressionally, in 1994? Oh yeah - Republicans. The problem with the gun issue is that one party seems to say they want ZERO regulation, and the other says they want common sense regulation. I think most people don't want felons to be able to buy guns, and do want people to have a background check before purchasing - at least, I do... I want to make it harder for criminals to arm up, without making it incredibly difficult for ordinary people. The trouble is, there are SOME Democrats that want them banned altogether, and part of the reason they have support is because of irresponsible gun owners and accidental deaths/rampages.

The other thing is, the Democratic platform otherwise is far more along the lines of what I want to see done, and the more pro-gun members of the party there are, the less likely we'll see our second-amendment rights infringed upon, because they will be forced to represent their constituency.

Ummm, the Republicans won the '94 election......and took office in '95. Check your facts. That vote costs a lot of Dems their seats.

You remind me of a guy I work with; I like him, but half the shit he says is wrong. After a particularly good discussion on genetic crop manipulation, I got on the net and immediately disproved what he had so vehemently been saying. He replied, "You feel pretty good right now, don't you?" I replied, "Yes".

I'm not saying that half the stuff you say is wrong; just saying that you remind me of this guy.

Knewsom, I just can't figure out why you can't see that the Democrat Party, as a whole, is antigun. Look at the votes and the records.

Anyhow, we both like guns