Why disconnect the Sway bar?

Morpheus

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Im researching Lifts for my disco and keep running into peopl who dosconnect the swaybar. why does one do that?
 

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Morpheus said:
Im researching Lifts for my disco and keep running into peopl who dosconnect the swaybar. why does one do that?

The sway bar prohibits the axle from dropping down to the full extension of the shock.

Thus if you go over a hole the axel will not drop as far as it can. So removing your sway bar or disconnecting it temporarily will result in being able to keep your tires on the ground more better and this improves the overall vehicles traction.

I removed mine completely when I went HD springs. Quick disconnects are also a good option.

If you go around 3" lift with 2-3" drop + disconnect swaybars, you should consider extended brake lines and possibly extended ABS lines. With 2" lift and OME shocks, you should be fine.


Brian
 
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I'm so used to my Jeep, I removed the front & rear trac bars and swaybars with no probs. Can I get away with removing the swaybars on my '96 SE-7 with 2" OME HD springs?
 

bri

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Ex CCS Racer said:
I'm so used to my Jeep, I removed the front & rear trac bars and swaybars with no probs. Can I get away with removing the swaybars on my '96 SE-7 with 2" OME HD springs?


In the message I just sent I should have noted that I have a 95 D1.

I removed them. Give it a try or buy the disconnects.
 
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I'm gonna take em off. The HD springs give a firm yet plush ride so I'm sure I'd feel fine on the highway.
 
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Iron Boots

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the earlier US spec RRC's never even had the bars....I love my '88.

Ex CCS, please tell me you had a YJ, not a TJ!
 
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Yes, a YJ. With RE springs and no trac or sway bars it rode and flexed decent. A TJ discoed is death :eek:
 
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Iron Boots

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Ex CCS Racer said:
Yes, a YJ. With RE springs and no trac or sway bars it rode and flexed decent. A TJ discoed is death :eek:

Even a disco'd TJ isn't scary...it was the trac-bar thing that freaked me out LOL!
 

Apexdisco

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Do you need extended brake lines when removing the rear sways with 2" OME's?

And what's the skinny on rear fender trimming with the rear sways removed? Is this only necessary if you run large tires?

What about the need for longer bump stops in the rear? For a 99 DI.
 
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Iron Boots said:
Even a disco'd TJ isn't scary...it was the trac-bar thing that freaked me out LOL!

Does anyone make a telescoping trac bar?
 

bri

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Apexdisco said:
Do you need extended brake lines when removing the rear sways with 2" OME's?

And what's the skinny on rear fender trimming with the rear sways removed? Is this only necessary if you run large tires?

What about the need for longer bump stops in the rear? For a 99 DI.

You might need extended lines on the rear *if* you get long shocks (longer than standard OME) or lower the upper mount. It is something easy to check once the suspension is together. Just raise the frame up high and then gradually lower the axel with the fram on stands. Watch the break lines as you lower the axle. I have the EE/EW lowered upper shock mounts and 3" lift, extended brake lines. I really like it.

Trimming *might* me avoidable with sway bars, don't know exactly how much they inhibit uptravel. The trimming is necessary since when the wheel stuffs into the well, it tends to hit the rear of the wheel well if you are running larger tires. My 245/75 and larger rubbed on the rear of the well, when stuff.

Then when you go to 3" and stock trailing links you are linkly to rub on the front of the rear well with 235/85 or larger. Extended rear links solve this as does the A-frame extender from RTE.

Front should not be an issue. I run the N73 extended shocks in front and do not have a problem with any rubbing or with the brake lines. I just happened to do all 4 brake lines at once.

Don't know about the bump stops, I do know that I do not have them and have not had a problem *yet*.

Brian
 

p m

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Ex CCS Racer said:
I'm gonna take em off. The HD springs give a firm yet plush ride so I'm sure I'd feel fine on the highway.
Tony, it depends on where you live. I found my D1 driveable with no sway bars, HD springs and Bilstein shocks on the mountain roads, but barely. You have to slow yourself down a lot, especially if you carry a big-ass roof rack full of stuff.
It takes about 20 minutes to disconnect and tie up the sway bars, so if you're an occasional off-roader, don't take them off for good.
 

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Iron Boots said:
the earlier US spec RRC's never even had the bars....I love my '88.
The Disco is way different, RJ - that heavy steel roof with a lot of glass high up there. My 89 is okay when you learn that the body lean doesn't mean it's going over, but the Disco is scarier.
 
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smenzel

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Sway Bars: Quick Disconnects

Quick Disconnects sound like the best compromise between road handling and off-road ability. Are there any drawbacks to the Quick Disconnects?
 
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billmallin

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smenzel said:
Quick Disconnects sound like the best compromise between road handling and off-road ability. Are there any drawbacks to the Quick Disconnects?

Nope. I've had them on my rig for 2+ years... not a single problem. You do have to grease them once in a while... that's all.

Also, for the record, I removed my rear.

So, quick disconnects in the front and no sway bar in the rear. And to be honest, I felt no difference with and without the rear.
 

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billmallin said:
Nope. I've had them on my rig for 2+ years... not a single problem. You do have to grease them once in a while... that's all.

Also, for the record, I removed my rear.

So, quick disconnects in the front and no sway bar in the rear. And to be honest, I felt no difference with and without the rear.

No worries while driving on highway at those speeds?
 

Eric N.

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Well, I've had both front and rear off for a few years now ( 98 D1 4 inches of lift ) and it has been fine.. It's not the going and turning that you get worried about... It's the sudden stops.. If you have to slam on your brakes from any kind of speed it'll make you a little nervous.

Just take them off one day and try it out for a week.. Try doing some speed braking and you'll see what I mean.. I don't think that its that bad and I have gotten used to it over the years. I don't have a roof rack though.. You can always put them back on or get disconnects later..
 
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Snwbord24

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I drove around without both sway bars on OME HD springs without any problems.