winch talk

[kennith]

Kenny,
My 9.5ti is all rusted needs completely rebuilt but still pulls hard. You should check out the zeon lineup.

I go out of my way to keep mine in good shape, and have used a cover when appropriate, but things wear over time. There's a bit of corrosion here and there, but nothing beyond cosmetic. The internals work as they should, despite water exposure.

I'm sure there's some wear in there somewhere, though.

I briefly owned a Superwinch Talon Rock 98, and I've looked at a Warn 9.0RC. I primarily use short lines, and keep a spare longer spool just in case, as well as an extension. I don't feel I'd lose anything with the 50 foot cable.

Longer cables are nice, but I hate running the damned things out to get the best performance out of the winch.

I'm trying to remove as much weight from the spaces in front of the axle as possible to better balance the vehicle at speed, so a light weight winch and bumper are top priorities. The batteries are going back in the rear again as soon as I get the new cage built, along with the electronics.

Right now the vehicle is a bit tacked together as I slowly get things the way I want them.

I'm trying to set things up more conveniently. In place of the battery and air filter will be powered hard points and threaded plates so I can mount or remove anything I want quickly, and without screwing around.

I'm also going to finally replace my headlights with round units. I haven't decided whether to use sealed beam replacements or more convenient driving beam auxiliary lights with street legal bulbs. If I have to replace one more of those damnable attachment snaps, I think I'll shoot the thing. I'm also tired of adjusting them.

Anyway, I want a lighter winch that's tough enough for the long haul.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[*NR*BRENT]

Kenny the 9.0rc is the main winch I see on comp buggies a few local rigs have them and swear by them. I'm leaning that route

 

[kennith]

Kenny the 9.0rc is the main winch I see on comp buggies a few local rigs have them and swear by them. I'm leaning that route

I've been staring at the 9.0RC pretty hard. That's probably what I'm going to end up with unless I find out it's not good for my purposes, for one reason or another.

I briefly owned a Rock 98, which was a hell of a lot nicer in person than it looks in the pictures. I never installed it, though.

Probably should have kept that. Oh well.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[fishEH]

The Comeup DV-9/Superwinch EP9 that I posted has a full load external brake. However, there's also a DV-9S that comes with synthetic and has a slightly different drum.

There's also the DV-6S which might be more appropriate for your rig's size and weight.

Also the Viking GS9 winch if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Buddy]

The Comeup DV-9/Superh EP9 that I posted has a full load external brake. However, there's also a DV-9S that comes with synthetic and has a slightly different drum.

There's also the DV-6S which might be more appropriate for your rig's size and weight.

So whats the deal on comeup? Did they buy the rights from Superwinch? Ive never heard of them before.

 

[D Chapman]

My 9.5ti is all rusted needs completely rebuilt but still pulls hard.

Exactly.

 

[D Chapman]

So whats the deal on comeup? Did they buy the rights from Superwinch? Ive never heard of them before.

Coming to a Cummings Tool Sale near you.

 

[emmodg]

All about winches: Scene I

(J.B. in sarcastic voice rolling his eyes)

I love these in-depth conversations about who makes the best winch and what line to use. You never see threads like these. It's a great way for all the "experts" to weigh in on their past experience with brand x.

(J.B. ends sarcastic voice, yawns and continues his search on www.pornhub.com)

 

[fishEH]

Coming to a Cummings Tool Sale near you.

So whats the deal on comeup? Did they buy the rights from Superwinch? Ive never heard of them before.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/82621-Comeup-Winches

When shopping for my new winch the Superwinch EP9.0 was at the top of my list due to reputation and specs. Sadly that winch is no longer made(at least under the Superwinch name) and finding a used one is extremely difficult. When comparing specs I came across the Viking GS9 winch who's specs are identical to that of the EP9.0. A friend in the know told me the Viking is made by ComeUp who also made the Superwinch equivalent. I've been extremely happy with mine. It's pulled very hard under extended use and after dunking in ice water and submerged in mud.

 

[ERover82]

Basically Comeup was always the manufacturer for many Superwinch models. They parted ways and Comeup decided to go direct to market.

 

[Devildog01]

9.5ti. I just sold my D2 but kept the winch. I'm going to rebuild it and it will go in the LR3.

 

[DiscoPhoto]

9.5ti. I just sold my D2 but kept the winch. I'm going to rebuild it and it will go in the LR3.

you sold your 5 speed truck??

 

[Devildog01]

Yes ma'am. It went to a very good home and I will be able to visit it often.

 

[D Chapman]

Basically Comeup was always the manufacturer for many Superwinch models. They parted ways and Comeup decided to go direct to market.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

 

[Nomar]

I just sold my D2 ....blah blah ....

Quitter.


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[ERover82]

Where do you come up with this stuff?

Are you confused again Dan?

 

[D Chapman]

Are you confused again Dan?

So you're telling me that a company that has been around since the 70's who has a production factory in CT and the UK has their winches built in Taiwan and China? Seems a little unbelievable to me. But if you've got sources I'd love to read them. Obviously you do so post them up.

Perhaps Superwinch has some of their lower quality winches made by a 3rd party in Taiwan/China. Tiger Shark, maybe... But I very much doubt that "most" of their winches, including the EP, EPi, X, Husky were made in Taiwan/China by some other company such as Comeup.

 

[kennith]

http://www.comeupwinch.com/ab/index.php?id=109&ab=3#.U2fN2VchUjM

For what it's worth, this is what they say about their own history.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[ERover82]

http://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modified-jk-tech-2/superwinch-where-they-made-13619/#b

http://www.vikingoffroad.com/viking-winch-gs-9/
"Winch Made in Taiwan"

"ComeUp has exclusively manufactured nothing but winches for over 37 years. As a behind the scenes private label manufacturer for the U.S. market for many years, ComeUp has chosen to go direct with its own brand name to bring its value added high quality winches to the U.S. market at a lower price." -comeupusa.com

It's also well known that their current LP series is made in China.

 

[D Chapman]

http://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modified-jk-tech-2/superwinch-where-they-made-13619/#b

The only reference to Superwinch I see there is this:

I know one of the engineers and the head of marketing for superwinch. More accuretly for them would be made in Taiwan. Several of there parts are made in china and many other countries, but there main Vendor is in Taiwan, but from what I understand this paticular vendor has plants in China, so some are made in Taiwan and some in China. But thats only certain winches and for the most part there components come from all over the world. Though interstingly enough, there 1st winches where actually, and still are, made in Great Britain.

The last sentence is the telling part to this story, and like I said I doubt their quality products are made by anyone other than Superwinch.

Sure, components of the winch may be made someplace else. Electric motors for example. I don't even know of an American company that makes electric motors any longer. Mitt Romney bought up the last of the American electric motor companies and shipped the jobs overseas. So I doubt you can even find an American electric motor

http://www.vikingoffroad.com/viking-winch-gs-9/
"Winch Made in Taiwan"

What does this have to do with Superwinch?

"ComeUp has exclusively manufactured nothing but winches for over 37 years. As a behind the scenes private label manufacturer for the U.S. market for many years, ComeUp has chosen to go direct with its own brand name to bring its value added high quality winches to the U.S. market at a lower price." -comeupusa.com

Where's the lower price? That GS-9 is $100 more than what I paid for my EP9.

They also do not name Superwinch, either. They could be talking about Chicago Electric or Cummings for all we know.

It's also well known that their current LP series is made in China.

Pretty typical these days. Some vendors call these "options" for cheapfucks. Kind of like a John Deere lawn mower from Home Depot. It says John Deere on the side of it and it's green, so it must be good, right? Much like Tibus axles.

Again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I just find it very strange that Superwinch has not just offices, but production facilities where people build winches for a living, in the USA and UK. So I don't see why they would sub out all, or even "most", of their manufacturing for the product they build and sell.